Not signed in (Sign In)
Welcome to The Watercooler, the companion forum to Northern Attack and all things concerning The Office on NBC.

Guests are free to browse the forums, although you will need to register for an account if you wish to participate in the discussions or use any of the advanced features of the forum (bookmarks, history, etc).

If you already have an account, please sign in now.

The Watercooler is powered by Vanilla, the sweetest forum on the web.

Bottom of Page
You know, I have no future here : A summer of speculation
  1. <
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. 4
  6. 5
  7. >
1 to 30 of 145
May 13th 2006 edited

I think it's time to break speculation out of the Casino Night thread. What do you think could happen come next season? And, remeber Jim and Pam aren't the only characters. This should keep us busy until fall.

Ryan and Kelly: I think a massive breakup could be a lot of fun in the office.

Kevin: I can see Kevin actually getting married to Stacy, which would mean a wedding episode. Have any of you been to a co-worker's wedding? Pissiness over the group gift plus ackward public drunkeness. And then there's seeing their extended family. That's all I'm saying.

Meredith: Meets someone on millionairematch.com.

Creed: We find out he actually lives in the warehouse.

Toby: Goes after Carole. You know, "chases that feeling."

Dwanglia: Everyone in the office has figured their relationship out, but they're still hiding it. Or, best yet, they get caught having sex in the supply closet.

May 13th 2006

Michael gets in a street fight after attempting to use the made-up phrases and mannerisms that Darryl taught him.

May 13th 2006

Michael gets in a street fight after attempting to use the made-up phrases and mannerisms that Darryl taught him.

Poor Michael, he never catches a break.

May 13th 2006

Toby: Goes after Carole. You know, "chases that feeling."

Oh my God... that's too good. I'm thinking that Toby chasing that feeling might have been other goings-on in the casino that will end up in deleted scenes, but this sounds so much better!

May 13th 2006

Didn't Greg Daniels say that sometime in The Office world the documentary would be shown? What if season three opens after that and we have to infer what happened?

May 13th 2006

Toby: Goes after Carole. You know, "chases that feeling."

I was thinking he might go after Jan.

May 13th 2006 edited

I know it's probably not going to happen, but when I heard that Toby liked the feeling of taking money from Michael and wanting to "chase the feeling," I thought about the summer webisodes where $3,000 is missing from Dunder-Mifflin....

May 13th 2006 edited

I thought about the summer webisodes where $3,000 is missing from Dunder-Mifflin....

When Angela saw Creed stealing her chips from right in front of her I was sure she would bust him. I wonder if that's ever going to surface. It's hard to imagine Angela letting him get away with that.

May 13th 2006

I think most people agree that the show is going to continue being in real time, which will be interesting considering the cliffhanger ending. I'm really interested to see how they pull off jumping ahead almost 4 months. I know with Gilmore Girls (don't judge me, that show USED to be good), they sometimes have the season premiere pick up from the finale and then the second episode is back in real time several months later. I just don't see that working here. I personally am hoping for the premiere to start off normally, with like a Michael talking head and some simple office interaction, and then the audience realises that something is missing, like there's a new guy in Jim's desk.

May 13th 2006

If this show was a typical rom-com sitcom, I know exactly what to expect next season with the Jim-Pam situation. They'd pull the old switcheroo where the pinee becomes the piner & vice versa. It's a good way to extend the sexual tension without resorting to sheer repitition. Pam would initially reject Jim, who would go off to Australia, and come back with a girlfriend. While he was away, Pam would realize the error of her ways and dump Roy. Then season three would be all about Pam pining for a newly attached Jim.

Fortunately, this show isn't typical in any way. Having been indoctrinated by the typical plot manoeuvers used in basically every other TV show, I was POSITIVE that the finale would throw us a little Jim-Pam bone without really and truly addressing the relationship. That's why Jim's plain, simple, uncontrived "I'm in love with you" basically had me falling off the couch. You just don't expect that kind of...honesty (?) in a TV show. I remember reading these boards before the finale and thinking people were way off base to expect a straightforward confession on Jim's part. Obviously, I was totally (and happily) wrong.

I think most TV shows use contrivances to keep couples apart based on the idea that the "story of getting together" is the only story worth being told. Like it all ends once the "together" is achieved. It's the typical romantic plot line and the basis of every romantic story from Jane Austen to Harlequin. I really think The Office might break the formula, which (if successfully done) would be a really different and exciting thing.

Whenever I read/watch a romantic storyline, there's always a part of me that wants to know what happens NEXT. Like in the BBC version, what did Tim & Dawn say to each other once they left the office hand-in-hand? What did their relationship actually become once the whole hoopla of getting together died down? In a way, there's the feeling that it's better not to know...like the perfectness would be tainted by the ordinariness of a real relationship, flaws and all. But when you think about it, this is a really silly approach to the romantic plotline and a totally false reflection of real life, where EVERYTHING important happens AFTER "the kiss." The kiss is the beginning. And we never get to see the REAL story. But maybe here we will.

Phew, long post.

May 14th 2006

That whole last paragraph was right on the proverbial money girlnextdoor. As Tim says (paraphrased), "There isn't really an ending. When you turn off that camera, I'll still be here."

A good example of what happens in reality is the Scrubs episode "My Bed Banter and Beyond." After the first season will they/won't they routine between Eliot and J.D., the two of them hook up and immediately start falling apart, because neither one of them is mature enough or strong enough to talk to each other or even work to keep their love alive. After every romantic comedy, it ends with a kiss, and we all assume happily ever after, but it's not quite that simple in the Real World.

What was I talking about? Oh, Yeah. The Office.

That will, of course, be the huge arc of next season. If Jim and Pam do end up fully together with no Roy and no Australia, can they really manage to stay together and stay in love? I wanna say yes, 'cause I'm a romantic that way, but a part of me speculates that maybe, once upon a time, even Roy was as lovestruck with Pam as Jim is now.

Okay, now I'm just randomly musing, rather than speculating... End post here.

May 14th 2006

Jan telling Michael that his branch is fourth out of five has to foreshadow something for next season ...

May 14th 2006

I bet that 5th branch closes and the Scranton branch picks up some of the extra employees. Maybe even that one branch manager who made Michael look like a real boss.

May 14th 2006 edited

.

May 14th 2006 edited

I think most people agree that the show is going to continue being in real time, which will be interesting considering the cliffhanger ending. I'm really interested to see how they pull off jumping ahead almost 4 months.

I am not convinced of this yet. Staying in real time is difficult and I can see them start S03 in the darkly lit office with Pam verbally responding to the kiss. I am probably wrong but I think they could make it work. I say this because there would need to be a lot of explaining or flashbacks if they gloss over a wedding, or postponed wedding, Jim's vacation, or not, etc...

This show probably has a 4 to 5 year life tops. With all of the romances, they can begin tying them up one at a time next year.

I see Michael going back to Jan and having a continued love-hate relationship. Remember Shelly Long and Ded Dansen? Jan is very much like Diane and Michael is very much like Sam.

Kelly will force Ryan into an engagement, he has no will over her. He will resign to his impending fate and give in.

DwAngela may emerge as the happiest couple (beside JAM) as they are meant for each other and good for each other. That romance is officially out of the closet.

I see Jim and Pam dealing with the effects of a new relationship. The playfulness will end a little and they will get hurt more easily now as expectations soar. Maybe Roy will be there as a sore spot the whole time?

There has to be some tension between Pam and Jim or it will get Blahhh. I see the rising of occasional burried feelings for Roy, or the need to be polite to Roy as a real source of contention. I cannot see Jim doing anything but fawning over and PAMpering Pam.

Or we could see JAM coaching DwAngela (or KeRyan) and having a disagreement as to how to approach it. Remember, Dwight often goes to Pam for love advice and Kelly goes to Jim for love advice. Once JAM is a real number, there may be disagreements as to what advice to give.

This is not speculation, this is solid information. I got it from a dream last night and my dreams are very reliable. You need proof? My dreams told me that the Finale would be torturous to watch and I'd be disappointed all summer. Okay, I may have been wrong on that one.

May 14th 2006 edited

To add on to the speculation of Roy leaving Casino Night early because he is cheating: I think he could be hooking up with Katy the "purse girl." On Booze Cruise, Roy and Katy had a bit of a connection in that they went to nearby high schools and she was a cheerleader while he was a football player (Pam was the "artsy-fartsy" girl). Katy was also cheering for him wildly while he was doing his snorkel shot.

May 14th 2006 edited

I think Jim will still transfer, but that's just me. I think him leaving the office is the daring thing to do, and this show has proven itself as daring. A camera following Jim around the perfect Stamford branch would be great.Happy, motivated employees, well-balanced boss. Actually, the sales manager position would be a step up. Jim would be dumb not to take it. Really, really dumb.

May 14th 2006

I think the two branches will merge together with only like one episode of Jim actually working in Stamford (they can't be switching back and forth between the branches). Or that'll be an interesting ending to an episode. Jim walks in, fully ready to forget about Scranton, and is told that he needn't move in to his desk, since-- guess what!-- they're all moving to Scranton now!

May 14th 2006 edited

Dwight says in Conflict Resolution that Stamford is "a good market" with "higher volume." That makes me think it probably is a bigger office than Scranton. The position Jim was considering was "Sales Manager" and that position doesn't even exist in Scranton. There are the sales reps (Jim, Dwight, Phyllis and Stanley), and they report directly to Michael, the regional manager. There's no inbetween position (ignoring Dwight's "mostly made up" title). Anyway, I was just thinking it would be strange to close down Stamford and integrate some of the employees into Scranton. I mean there are only a few empty desks and not a lot of room, and the Stamford branch has "higher volume" so it seems like it would probably be more important to corporate.

May 14th 2006

I would never hook up with Roy! :)

May 15th 2006
I want to know what happened with Michael and Carole after casino night? I think this sub-plot got toatally overshadowed by the JAM happenings. I think it could be a fun relationship to explore in season 3, or at least keep the love triangle going, with a jelous Jan.
May 15th 2006

The season has ended and I am now in phase 2 of the grieving process- speculation. (The 1st phase was rewatching the finale over and over and over...actually, I guess I'm not out of phase 1 yet, but I digress...)

To stay in real-time or not to stay in real-time The real-time thing has been nice but I just don't see how they can continue it. 4 months from one episode to the next? I don’t wanna just be quickly filled in on what’s been happening with the characters all summer. ESPECIALLY Jim and Pam. I NEED to know (and I really wanna SEE)…

*What did Jim and Pam do immediately after the kiss? Who spoke first? Did they part ways because Pam needs time to think? Did they stay and talk it out? Did they kiss a little more?

*What was work like the next morning for everyone? Who else has a hangover besides Meredith? How do Jim and Pam act around each other?

*Does Jim decide to transfer? Does he discuss it with Pam first? What is Pam’s reaction to the transfer or to discovering Jim is/was thinking about leaving?

*Does Jim go to Australia? What's it like for Pam at work those last couple of days before the wedding while Jim isn't there?

*(The obvious one) Does Pam get married? If she calls it off, what is the reason she tells everyone? What is Roy's reaction? Is it just postponed or is it cancelled? How does Kevin's band perform or how does Kevin take the news of the cancellation?

*Roy's bachelor party. Does he get into trouble? Is Jim invited? Can you imagine if Dwight were somehow able to go? How would Dwight act at a bachelor party??? (This one isn’t all that crucial for me to know about but I think it’s potentially really funny material to work with).

The season finale was better than anything I had imagined. I have no doubt that the writers will address these questions in amazing ways. I just don’t see how they can do that if when they come back in September, it’s really September.

May 16th 2006

I've been thinking about this real-time thing. The episodes of this show are supposed to be the actual documentary, right? Given that fact, it seems strange that the documentary would skip ahead four months & miss out on major plot points such as the (non)wedding, Jim's (potential) transfer, etc. The cameras would definitely film these moments. So why wouldn't we see them? In other TV shows, it totally makes sense for there to be a four-month hiatus over the summer (e.g. shows that follow a school year). But there's no reason why the documentary would not continue to film over the summer.

May 16th 2006

I wonder if the writers ever come on here and see what the fans are talking about.

May 18th 2006

I have no idea if the show is going to pursue anything between Roy & Katy, but I think they're perfect for each other. Both of them carrying on at the table in Booze Cruise, about life in high school, was pretty telling. Um, how long ago since they've been teenagers? And Roy remembers the score to the game when their respective high schools played eachother? And Katy still knows the A-W-E-S-O-M-E cheer?

I say, hook them up already. They'd be good together. And I'm not just saying that because I want Jim with Pam. ;-)

Aug 15th 2006

Before Angela, there was Kelly. I'd love to see something happen between Kelly and Dwight.

Aug 16th 2006

Am I the only one who thinks Dwight and Angela are going to be getting married owing to impending parenthood brought on by miscommunication about birth-control? John K. was talking with Kristin of E! (albeit jokingly) about a baby casting call...

Aug 16th 2006

That would be, um, I was going to put "pretty cool," but now I'm thinking about it and it seems more like a "creepy and wierd" is a better fit.

Aug 16th 2006 edited

Next season, I hope that although Jim transferred, the season opens with the Stamford branch moving to Scranton, bringing Jim back into Pam's life. She's broken off her engagement with Roy (or postponed the wedding but an eventual break-up), and the two of them are finally together. That way, we get to witness them actually getting together, and we get something really unique: the couple NOT struggling to have the same feelings at the same time for five seasons. The couple just getting together, and allowing us to finally see beyond the threshold of the start of their relationship. I'd like that. I also wouldn't mind seeing some jealousy on Roy's part initially until he finally settles into a relationship with Katy.

In regards to the Carole/Michael/Jan triangle, I hope that Carole and Michael have been sharing a relationship for the past few months now, Jan's jealousy growing along with it. Her reaction to them as they stay together would be fun to watch in episodes from the upcoming season.

As far as Dwangela is concerned, I just want them to still be together. Their relationship is offbeat and orignial for a sitcom and also funny and entertaining.

Aug 16th 2006

I think the perfect place for season three to start would be the start of the kiss -- do you all agree?

  1. <
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. 4
  6. 5
  7. >
1 to 30 of 145
Top of PageBack to discussions