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I know what Pam said after the kiss
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May 15th 2006

I am certain that I know exactly what was said by Pam. If I tell everyone, it might spoil the anticipation that everyone has when you're not sure what to make of everything. I've never posted before, but I've been lurking for a couple of days to see if anybody is going to come up with it because I don't want to be the spoiler. I told a good friend about it and she said that I should share it with others. Would you rather know or leave it as it is?

May 15th 2006

DO TELL!

May 15th 2006

Of course we want to know!

May 15th 2006

Okay, I guess I shouldn't have started if I wasn't going to tell. I don't want anyone angry with me, so here goes...

I watched the kissing scene over and over before I came to this conclusion. This is how it worked.

I watch The Office in HDTV on a 110” screen so I am able to catch a lot more than the average viewer. I also have an incredible sound system. The voices come out of a separate speaker called a center channel. During the kiss, I turned the volume as high as it would go (100), and put my ear right against the center channel. After I figured out what she said, I also watched it and filled in the blanks to see if it looked like she said what I heard.

Some people think that she says, “The camera” or “I love you.” She doesn’t say either. Her lips never come together as they would for the M in “camera.” Neither does her mouth form a V sound as in “love.”

When I watched her throat during the kiss and afterward it is clear that she starts speaking sooner than most of us thought.

Here’s what happens: Pam tilts her head toward the camera as if to remind Jim that they’re watching. Then she mouths in a slight whisper, “Let’s get outta here.” And then Jim has that oh, yeah kind of look (because of the camera I presume).

Once I figured out what she said, I could totally hear it every time I played it back on the highest volume, although it was a very light whisper.

I am relieved to know that there was no rejection when she lightly pushed Jim away.

May 15th 2006

WHOA. That leaves the rest of us to uh... imagine what came next.

May 15th 2006

It's just that now I know that she didn't reject Jim after the kiss.

I think if they start next season in 'real time' and several months have passed, we will still have a lot of blanks to fill in.

I hope at least the first show of the season takes us back where they left us for at least 5 minutes.

May 15th 2006

They'll most likely sum it up with an interview. And maybe a clip.

May 15th 2006

Maybe Jim will be just coming back from Aussie land or he'll be at Stamford with a new job. We'll have to watch and figure out or overhear that Pam never got married. But I think at first, we won't have an explanation or anything. We'll have to speculate and wonder if Jam is together.

May 15th 2006

I could have sworn she whispers "I can't". I much prefer your version.

May 15th 2006

Plaid,

Impressive dedication to putting us in the know. Nice.

May 15th 2006 edited

I don't mean to discredit what you say Plaid, and I certainly don't have the equipment to analyse to the extent you have, but to me, the noise after the kiss is just an inhalation. I listened again and again after your post, and I can hear what could sound like "let's get outta here" but it sounds like she started saying it before the kiss even broke, which seems unlikely.

Go with me on this... take the "g" sound as in "goat". Say it very lightly in the back of your throat as you breathe in. Sometimes this happens accidently as we breathe in. This is the only sound that suggests to me that any words were said. Now, Pam had just gone a few seconds without breathing, and with no warning beforehand to take a deep breath. With the shock of what just happened, she would definitely need a quick breath after breaking the kiss. Such a quick breath could trigger the accidental "g" sound, and in doing so, suggest a word, or sentence.

Also, if Pam's head movement indicated the camera was watching, surely Jim would look to see what she was indicating. If she didn't say anything about the camera, it's a bit of a stretch to suggest that Jim immedietely knew what she meant without looking. Especially with his head so full of what just happened.

Thirdly, during the scene we can clearly hear all sorts of noises that would surely be louder than a whisper. For instance, we can hear the fabric of Pam's dress moving. Rubbing the fabric would produce a reasonable volume, but we can hear it even as Pam moves before Jim reaches her. There are various creaks and things produced by their clothing as they kiss. All these noises are quite clear, as picked up by very sensitive microphones. I find it highly unlikely that any whisper could be heard less clearly than these noises.

For me, there is too much evidence that there were no words spoken by either Jim or Pam. And, personally, I think it would kinda ruin the romance if anything was said. The looks are so much more powerful to me.

There has been a lot of debate on this, and I'm pretty sure it will continue until the next season airs. Even then, there's no guarantee it will be resolved, or even mentioned.

This could go down as one of the greatest unsolved mysteries of all time!

May 15th 2006

Does anyone know where I could download the episode in high definition? My Tivo is analog.

May 15th 2006

I agree Mixed Berries but I want to believe that she said "Let's get out of here." It just makes the situation sound a lot more intriguing.

May 15th 2006

Mixed Berries:

I really do believe that the mystery is solved IMHO.

As regards the other sounds such as the fabric on the dress. We all know that one of the unique things about the office is that they don't have the background sounds that other sitcoms have such as laughter and music. They do however, accentuate other sounds such as typing on the keyboard or paper ruffling. Things that are not normally noticed. With a good quality equalizer they can accentuate the sound of the fabric and downplay the whisper. They did this likely to keep us in suspense over the summer. It also makes sense that she would speak quietly once she thought about the camera lurking around.

As far as your point about the breath, you have a good point there. I'm going to have to look at it again and see if I've accounted for the time it takes to get a breath in. I'll let you know what I come up with.

May 15th 2006

I just watched it over about 20 times using the U-turn arrow on the remote and I'm staying with my original post. Pam takes a breath before the head tilt. She starts to speak during the headtilt.

May 15th 2006

So when did these become the Lost forums?

May 15th 2006 edited

Plaid, you could well be right. Like I said, I don't have the equipment to analyze too thoroughly. You do make a good point about the equaliser. I just offer my opinion based on what I see and, more importantly, what I want to believe, haha!

So when did these become the Lost forums?

SOS, all good TV shows have their mysteries that need to be solved by overly obsessive fans :-P

May 15th 2006 edited

While I love all of this speculation, I agree with Mixed Berries in saying that their looks are much more powerful. So many times over the course of the show, the silent JAM exchanges do so much more than words ever could.

I'm assuming that Casino Night was on a Friday evening, so I'm hoping Season Three will start off with the following Monday.

May 15th 2006

I'm assuming that Casino Night was on a Friday evening, so I'm hoping Season Three will start off with the following Monday.

One of the reasons Toby didn't think the Boy Scouts should come to the casino is that it was a school night, so they've gotta go back to work the very next morning. And yeah, I'm hoping too that they start from there!

May 15th 2006

So when did these become the Lost forums?

Maybe Jim and Pam escaped to an as-yet undiscovered hatch to be alone...or so they think. I heard a rumor they're being killed off next season by the angry ghost of Ana Lucia, anyway (right before everyone else returns to the mother ship), which makes all of this a moot point. ;-)

(Really, I think Pam just says, "Hey," and Jim responds with his own, "Hey." That's it. I think we want to all see more than is actually there.)

May 15th 2006

I think Pam just says "Have you bought your copy of Lollilove yet?" And of course Jim feels a little uncomfortable because Amazon has not shipped it yet (what with the free super-saver shipping). He's about to say "I should have chosen next day air."

Maybe that's where season 3 picks up.

May 15th 2006

If you read my post from last night you'll see that I was able to observe that her words were spoken just as their heads began to seperate - way before most people think the words started. A second (second and a half at most) after the kiss ends, she is done talking, that's how fast it is.

However, I put my volume all the way up and listened to the center channel as well and I can still make out an "I Love You".

I will try again tonight and see if I can make it out to be "Let's get outta here."

Either way, I am convinced Pam spoke first and Jim replied. There is too much sound and lip movement for it to be breathing or a sigh.

Hopefully, Pam, on her blog, will clear this up when she resumes it at the end of the summer.

May 15th 2006

I think Pam just says "Have you bought your copy of Lollilove yet?" And of course Jim feels a little uncomfortable because Amazon has not shipped it yet (what with the free super-saver shipping). He's about to say "I should have chosen next day air."

You might be right. I can make most of that out if I listen very carefully, but I think you are wrong on Jim's reply. I'm pretty sure he says: "I should have chosen FedEX." Either that or he said: "See you on the Watercooler tomorrow."

May 15th 2006

FedEx! Yeah, you're right UpDog! Good call. Either way he has some explaining to do. Such a procrastinator that Jim.

May 15th 2006 edited

Let me preface this post by saying that "I love you" and "out of here" can sound very similar under all that noise and it is barely audible to boot.

I went home at lunch and listened again at least 10 more times. It was better this way cause if I do it tonight when my wife and son will be home they'll get ticked off at me. Plus, I got side tracked once and the stupid Apple commercial came on and blasted me.

Clearly, Pam spoke and I will now agree with Plaid that she said "let's get out of here". Jim waits a few seconds and says "OK' or just "K". My guess is the let's get out of here is a refrence to avoiding the documentary cameras.

I still think this is very important as it indicates a clear shift from what Pam said only 10 minutes earlier. That phone call to her mom was a wake-up call to Pam. The Kiss was initiated by Jim so any affirmation from Pam is crucial to the future and I believe Jim got his affirmation right there.

Pam was rushing to get the words out, which explains why she cut the kiss short at the end and sort of held Jim off. It's not that she didn't want to continue, she just didn't want it to continue right there.

I'm giving Kudos to Plaid for picking that out.

May 15th 2006 edited

Just throwing this out there, but if the producers wanted us to hear exactly what she says to Jim, and henceforth speculate on the meaning, my opinion is that we wouldn't have to crank our volume to drastic levels to hear it.

That said, Pam appears to say something positive, and even though the editors may have tried to muffle it out, Pam's disposition seems to be that of reciprocating Jim's affection. This is good.

May 15th 2006

Very well said HTC. While I won't be naive enough to say that definitely nothing was said, I really think the highers-up made the right decision in attempting to mute out whatever it was that might have been said. While in most cases I love speculating as much as the next person, I'm perfectly content to go into next season not knowing what, if anything, was said following the kiss.

I do, however, hope that nothing else happened between the two the rest of the night. Unless The Office plans on turning into a drama, it would behoove Pam to break it off with Roy before eloping with Jim.

May 15th 2006 edited

A friend of mine that works for a CSI lab ran the audio through a demutiplexing-remodulator bi-phase filter that resulted in very clear voice audio. This is what it sounded like after the kiss.

Pam: "I need to report this to Toby"

Jim: "REDACT IT!"

I was hoping to hear that you were right, Plaid.

May 15th 2006

Awesome equipment. If I had a nickle for every time I could have used a demutiplexing-remodulator bi-phase filter...

May 15th 2006

LOL DropADeuce, that's a good one. Really.

I only thought you guys might want to know what I came up with. Maybe I shouldn't have spilled it. The producers obviously didn't intend for us to hear anything, so I'm thinking that they could take the show in any direction they decide regardless. We have to remember (sometimes I forget)that this is just a show, not real-life that can be recorded and played back for what it is.

I'm just letting you know exactly what I saw & heard when I analyzed it. I'm not "bluffing" (Jim), or "full of it" (Kevin), but I am being "straight"(Pam) with you.

Oh, and I do like to make sure you know where I get my quotes from like Michael Scott does. LOL:)

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