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And a sidenote to gb: Why do you think Pam's calling off her wedding was dependent on Jim being gone?
Because there wouldn't be any reason, or enough of a reason, for her to change the comfortable mundanity of her life. If Jim didn't go anywhere, he and Pam would have fallen back into the same pattern from before "Casino Night." Pam "shot him down" that night, and if he just came back to work like nothing happened (which it seems to me he would have, but maybe not), then Pam has her two guys back. TWSS.
I just think she would have convinced herself "Casino Night" meant nothing if Jim had stayed, and married Roy, chalking that night up to Jim being lonely, misinterpreting their friendship, etc.
So Jim actually leaving served as the necessary shock that woke her up and made her realize what a really bad path she was on?
I can sorta see that. I hope she had a strong enough sense of self-preservation to wake up one morning and think, "I'm gonna marry who?" But...what you say makes sense, too.
I just think she would have convinced herself "Casino Night" meant nothing if Jim had stayed, and married Roy, chalking that night up to Jim being lonely, misinterpreting their friendship, etc.
But would Jim not have kept trying to change her mind rather than just going back to the status quo? I guess my reason for this What if was my nagging feeling that Jim just walked away, which was justifiable, but that an equally plausible response would have been to try and make her see the mistake she was about to make both because he wanted her for himself, but also because she was his friend and marrying Roy would have been a disaster.
but that an equally plausible response would have been to try and make her see the mistake she was about to make both because he wanted her for himself, but also because she was his friend and marrying Roy would have been a disaster.
I don't think this would do anything but make Pam pissed at Jim.
I hope she had a strong enough sense of self-preservation to wake up one morning and think, "I'm gonna marry who?"
I do, too, but based on her S1 and S2 character, I can see her staying the course because any change would be very frightening.
I don't think this would do anything but make Pam pissed at Jim.
Why? She admitted she felt the same way about him and throughout the Jim/Pam arc there has been idea that if just one of them could breakthrough and get the conversation started they would end up together. I guess this is the wrong thread for this conversation.
"What if Jim had taken Katy as his date to the Dundies?"
I think Pam would still have kissed Jim after getting smashed and receiving
her Whitest Sneaker Award causing Katy to confront Jim and dump him upon
learning the truth. (After selling half a dozen quality leather purses, of course.)
This would have left Jim unencumbered by the soon to be Academy Award
nominated "hot girl" and therefore free to make his feelings known to Pam
on the booze cruise before Roy could make his wedding date announcement-
an event that would prove the greatest hurdle to the Pam and Jim relationship
so far. In short, (too late) I think Jim squiring Katy to the Dundies would have
changed everything.
I'm scrolling through the threads trying to find out if we have a "lady parts" thread, to post this youtube video (that sounds really messed up), and this one was white. And I don't know what I was doing on Feb 10, 2011. Probably posting a buttload of posts, annoyingly. Anyway, sorry, D.
Here's the video. I don't know where it should go.
Probably not here.
Oh, well.
Those videos were hilarious, and now I want to read through this entire thread, just because it's so old. Toos, remember this one?
Ah! I knew we had one! But I couldn't remember what it was called. I scrolled through, like, 3 pages of threads. Dang it.
Wow, reading through these threads, I can see that a lot of you guys spent hours thinking about the show and discussing it, and I want to say...what a bunch of losers you guys were! I mean are! I don't see my name in here, so I must have been busy banging broads or riding firetrucks or something.
Wow, reading through these threads, I can see that a lot of you guys spent hours thinking about the show and discussing it, and I want to say...what a bunch of losers you guys were!
I've had the same thought. About myself. Now it seems like an incredible waste of time.
Even though I spent a lot of time on the show, thinking about it and participating here, I seriously thought at the time that some people were way more into it than I was. Now here I am, years later, still trying to tie everything to some Office joke.
As one of the losers above, I just want it noted that those posts came about two weeks after joining up here so, yeah.
I didn't re-read any of it. I hate seeing what I've posted, for the most part.
I guess it's worse for all of you? (Seeing my posts, I mean, not that you regret what you've posted, as well.)
(But you probably should.)
I hate seeing what I've posted, for the most part.
Yeah, it's like seeing yourself on video or hearing a recording of your own voice. Ick.
The only posts I regret are the ones from my drunken night. And by regret, I mean enjoy. That was a helluva fun night for me.