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Excuse Me, I'm Fine With My Choices - Pam
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Jul 9th 2006 edited

We all know that pam is faced with a decision now between Jim or Roy. We all knew that Jim was in love with Pam long before he ever confessed to her. With Pam though, it has not been so obvious.

There are some scenes where I think that Pam also loves Jim, and then other scenes where it looks like Roy is her soul-mate. What I'm looking for in this post is what we know of Pam's perspective on this, one way or the other.

For example: Some of the most obvious times to me was when Pam was threatened by Jim dating Katie.

  1. Her putting on lip gloss.

  2. Pam asking Jim to give Katie his phone number so she wouldn't have to forward Katie's calls. I don't think she wanted to know when Katie was calling him.

  3. Her little smile when Jim told Ryan that he wasn't seeing much of Katie anymore.

On the other side of the coin:

  1. Her flirtation with Roy in "Basketball" about getting him into a tub.

  2. In The Carpet, when it was obvious that Pam and Roy had such a good time together on vacation. They were discussing when they could get another chance to get away to do it again.

Jul 9th 2006

I think Pam is just comfortable with Roy, he's a known entity (with everything that comes with that, like his occasional cruelty and ability to make her feel less than she is). Fear of the unknown often keeps people from reaching out for something more that they know they could have with someone, so they stick with the familiar no matter what.

You have to take into consideration that Pam's been with Roy for so long now, she can't imagine being with anyone else or taking the chances necessary to do that. Jim is always there for her, but she really doesn't see this as a bonus in making the case for him instead of Roy. I agree with someone who posted a while back that Pam is comfortable with Jim being her "go-to" guy, so long as the guy that she actually spends quality time with away from the office is Roy. Not saying that Pam is "having her cake and eating it too", but she definitely has something to lose if she pursues this possible relationship with Jim.

But she definitely has feelings for him, I don't think that can be discounted.

Jul 9th 2006 edited

THPJ I think I have to agree with you and you put it so well.

What I'm hoping to get from everyone with this post is the actual quotes or actions from the scene(s) that helped you draw the conclusions that you do. THPJ has a lot of good points, but how does he/she know this?

I'm hoping if we can get everything together on this post, it will be easier to look at to come to our own conclusions.

Jul 9th 2006

He, I'm a he ;-)

Jul 9th 2006 edited

Evidence Pam loves Jim:

  1. (A drunken) Pam kissed Jim at the Dundies.

  2. In her talking head when asked about Jim & Katie dating, she gets uncomfortable and says "I feel like I'm talking really loud, am I talking really loud?"

  3. When her Mom came to the office and asked which one was Jim, Pam got all embarrassed and didn't introduce them. If Jim were just a good work friend who she had talked about, what would be the big deal about introducing him to her Mom?

Jul 9th 2006

To me the proof Pam has strong feelings for Jim is in the body language. It's hard to describe, but she seems happier, carries herself better and seems more confident with Jim. Around Roy she seems complacent, a little meek, and somewhat bored. Granted, we don't see her with Roy nearly as much as Jim, so it's not a totally fair comparison.

The best examples of positive Pam body language that come to mind right away are her "It was a good day" talking head at the end of Michael's Birthday and the poker scene at Casino Night. Also in Casino Night after Roy drives off and right before Jim confesses and almost the entire episode of Drug Testing. Another great example is the way she looked at him when they are at the bar in The Dundies. Yes, she was drunk, but I feel those were her true emotions coming out.

Also, they are together whenever possible. Almost anytime the entire office is together in a group - party, off-site, conference room, whatever - they are sitting or standing next to each other.

Jul 9th 2006

I'll respond first to the most recent Jenna Loves Josh - Your comment about her body language is the best evidence to me. I think Pam doesn't even know (though maybe now she might have a better clue!) she has feelings for Jim beyond friendship - and that may be why the "clues" are harder to pick up.

Some of what I've noticed and remember:

1) When Pam takes the call from Katie, she asks who's calling but doesn't bother to tell Jim who is was - obviously asking only to satisfy her own curiosity and no other real reason

2) Pam's ease (time and time again) to put off work and/or Roy to be at work when the "fun" stuff is happening - specific examples: "The Client" she stays late when Roy comes to pick her up (she could have easily left then); "Office Olyimpics" she first puts her phone on automatic voice mail for the actual events and then, later, when Jim asks her to ignore them, she easily does so for closing ceremonies; etc., etc.

3) Pam's ability and choice to go to Jim to complain about Roy (all.the.time.)

4) Pam's grabbing Roy in an some-what realiatory public display of affection after Katie shows up and takes Jim to lunch in "The Fire"

I know there are more, but I just can't think of them so late. I did, though, want to just mention that I don't know that any of the above-mentioned points with regard to Roy and Pam show that Roy is or could be Pam's soul-mate. I think the few moments of ease between Roy and Pam are just that, few moments of ease - the reality being something much less than soulmates and more like the remnants of a realtionship that has been off kilter for quite a while.

Jul 9th 2006

Pam also seems to be genuinely excited about her wedding though. She talks about it quite a bit. Also, In the Booze Cruise, she seemed so happy that Roy had set a date. Her body language when she got up from her seat to walk over to Roy was very telling. She was practically in tears from genuine happiness. Also notice the way Pam looks at Roy in that same scene when they were dancing together.

It is things like this that confuse me.

Jul 10th 2006 edited

Plaid, that confusing back-and-forth is what makes me so excited about Pam as a character. She acts like a real person who doesn't know what the right answer is - not a sticomish caricature.

On one hand, she's trying like hell to make it work with the guy she's spent the last 10 years with. When Roy sets the date on the Booze Cruise, it's the commitment she's been looking for for the past decade. She's probably was overcome with joy and relief. Remember what she said to Katy earlier that night: "We've been engaged for three years, and there's no end in sight." Imagine the end suddenly coming into sharp focus after all that doubt and worry and despair. I'm sure she was genuinely delighted. Who doesn't want it to work out in the end? Who wants to waste 10 years?

And don't forget that Pam isn't privy to Jim's thoughts or the secret longing facial expressions that we're treated to. He usually takes great pains to hide those from her - and he never actually says anything on the deck of the boat when he has the chance. She's left to speculate on what he might have said. For all she knows, he really is just a friend. (Until he drops the bomb on Casino Night, of course.) I think most people doubt themselves when they get that feeling that a friendship is evolving into more than that - they say, "Maybe it's just my imagination." I think Pam does that in a number of situations with Jim.

Plus, I think there's a lot of self-deception going on on both sides of this fence. Pam is working overtime to convince herself that the wedding is going forward and that Roy is a good guy despite his (many) faults. And she's also trying to talk herself into believing that her feelings for Jim are just friendly. I think Andy and Jammer make great points about her flashes of jealousy surrounding Jim and Katy, though. She does have feelings for Jim, but I don't think she knows how to handle them other than to push them down and move grimly ahead.

And Jim, too, is trying to get over her. He knows the wedding is coming. He knows Pam, and she's usually not willing to take a chance on anything. Remember what he says to Kelly on Valentine's Day (Warning: very rough quote ahead): "It'd be nice if he was into you. But he's not. And you have to just suck it up. You have to move on." That speech was as much (if not more) to himself as it was to Kelly.

As the season moved on, I think both Jim and Pam began to realize how final June 10th was for their friendship. That's why the heroics on Casino Night - and why Pam kissed Jim back. I think it was the culmination of all those tiny moments. Of course, what Pam does now with that knowledge is hard to tell. And that's why all her confusion gets me so excited for S3. I think we're going to be treated to some amazing television. I don't think it's going to go smoothly, either. But I'm willing to give up the fairy tale for some genuine growth.

But all that said, I do think Pam loves Jim. Other moments I noticed:

  1. The fabric softener scene in the drug store. I think Pam loves having that inside knowledge of Jim's home life. I don't think that's just amusement - I think I see fondness in that smile.

  2. Jim's ability to relate to kids in TYDTWD. I know she's wondering what he'd be like with kids (their kids?) -- again, her smile and the way she watches him shows you that the wheels are turning.

  3. The sad look she has when he dashes out the door on Valentine's Day. I don't think Pam gives a rat's ass about getting home to the "best sex of her life." She just knows that Jim didn't say more than three words to her that day. Despite the headband.

I could go on for days. Oh, wait -- I have!

Jul 10th 2006

Jim's ability to relate to kids in TYDTWD. I know she's wondering what he'd be like with kids (their kids?) -- again, her smile and the way she watches him shows you that the wheels are turning.

Totally agree on this one and it seems to get somewhat overlooked in looking at the Jim/Pam "body of work". I think it was huge though.

I also felt there to be a slight switch in the relationship towards the end of the season. After Booze Cruise and The Secret, it appeared as though Jim was trying to come to terms with the fact that the wedding was going to happen, but in episodes like Take Your Daughter to Work, Michael's Birthday,and Drug Testing, Pam got a little more aggressive with her displays of affection. Then there was a downturn in Conflict Resolution before everything came to a head in the finale.

Jul 10th 2006

I could go on for days. Oh, wait -- I have!

LOL! Put very well JAMtastic. It was almost a fanfic. Some good observations in your post.

  1. About Pam wanting to have inside knowledge of Jim's home life: At Jim's BBQ, she strays from the group tour to stay in Jims room and check everything out.

  2. In The Secret when Jim tells Pam that he used to have a crush on her, she seems to be paying close attention and thinking about every word. Then when he says "its totally not a big deal," her expression looks like she is holding back tears. Then when Jim says, "and when I found out that you were engaged..." Pam sort of cuts him off to tell him that she had thought that all along. I notice that when someone is receiving criticism or a heart-to-heart talk, and they interrupt to agree or disagree right away, it's because they really don't want the person to continue talking about it because it is hard for them to hear and discuss. I notice that all the time on American Idol when the contestants are being judged harshly. Pam did that again at the end of the episode when Michael wanted to discuss it with her. She just didn't want to hear again that it was a long time ago. It's okay for her to say it though, because that shows to others that it doesn't bother her. By doing that, she in effect shows to others that it is important to her.

Jul 10th 2006

Well said, Jenna and Plaid, all excellent points.

Jenna, about the downturn in Conflict Resolution.... I'm not sure it was really a downturn. I think that's when Pam finally puts the last piece of the puzzle in place. It's a confirmation that her wedding bothers Jim. And it's still game-on for his crush.

I always thought that the transition between Conflict Resolution and Casino Night was odd. After all, Pam probably should have been pissed off that her best friend complained about her to Toby. But the vibe on Casino Night is anything but pissed off. If anything, she's really flirtatious - from the saucy wink during the mind control segment, to the laughing and mocking during the viewing of the Scrantonicity tape, to the un-Pamlike pretty dress and fussy hair, to the out-and-out flirting at the poker table....I think Pam has realized that she quite likes Jim and that it's up to her at this point.

Granted, I don't think she was ready for an all-out declaration of love from Jim. I also don't think she was planning to do anything about it that night. But I do think that she was heading in that direction mentally when Jim fessed up. That would make "I think I am" more believeable if her mom's question was indeed "Are you in love with Jim?"

Thoughts? Am I just the eternal romantic? (I do admit to loving a good piece of JAM fanfic fluff, though I've never written any.)

Jul 10th 2006

Good point about Conflict Resolution, JAMtastic. A lot of conflicts between Jim & Pam are probably good in the long run because they help expose the relationship for what it is.

I always thought that the transition between Conflict Resolution and Casino Night was odd.

James expressed in a couple of his episode reviews that this bothered him at times. My theory in those instances is that we as the audience never really know how much time has passed between episodes. I believe it loosely follows real time so the documentarians are always filming and then showing us the interesting things that happened. Maybe there was a three or four week period between Conflict Resolution and Casino Night, and during that time the hard feelings between the two simmered down. Also, they are both pretty laid back and non-confrontational so I think when they have arguments there's no dramatic apology, but the relationship repairs itself over time.

Plaid, I think your comments on The Secret are spot on. One thing I've wondered about, when she says, "I (pause) thought maybe you did", did she almost say, "I had a crush on you too", but caught herself?

Jul 10th 2006

One thing I've wondered about, when she says, "I (pause) thought maybe you did", did she almost say, "I had a crush on you too", but caught herself?

JLJ, I've always noticed that too, but more in Jims reaction than what Pam was trying to say. If you look at Jims expression when Pam says, "I (pause) thought maybe you did", Jim's eyes light up as if he is expecting some good news from Pam. Then when she says, "when I first started" Jim looks a little let down. Was Pam about to say something? Maybe, but I don't think so. It seems that she was just fumbling for the right words because they were having this awkward conversation. If Pam really wanted to say something, she probably would have said it at the end of the episode in the elevator when they were alone. Michael had just screwed up everything Jim tried to fix, and Pam couldn't be sure if Jim was really over his crush. So that would have been her opportunity if she was looking for one.

Jul 10th 2006 edited

Regarding the transition from Conflict Resolution to Casino Night, I actually thought the transition was OK. When Jim first asked Pam what she was doing (with the box of videotapes), she said "Oh, Nothing" and moved to take them off her desk as if she was hesitant to let him know that she was working on the wedding. After Jim continued to ask ask about them, and seemed ready to "play" like they usually do, Pam got all giddy and was eager to go to the conference room to look at the tapes with him. I think her initial reluctance to tell Jim what she was doing was the carry over from Conflict Resolution, and it wasn't until Jim seemed OK with talking about wedding stuff that she was happy again. Her talking head comment "I'm getting along with everyone at work" was, I think, a direct reference to the fact that everything was OK between her and Jim again.

As for Pam's excitement about the wedding. I noticed in the same talking head she says " I'm pretty happy these days. I'm getting married soon....." She doesn't say "Roy and I are getting married soon". I think Pam wants to get married (for the security and stability) more than she wants to marry Roy.

Jul 10th 2006

she says " I'm pretty happy these days. I'm getting married soon....." She doesn't say "Roy and I are getting married soon". I think Pam wants to get married (for the security and stability) more than she wants to marry Roy.

Well-put, Jammer.

Jul 10th 2006

Regarding the transition from Conflict Resolution to Casino Night, I actually thought the transition was OK. When Jim first asked Pam what she was doing (with the box of videotapes), she said "Oh, Nothing" and moved to take them off her desk as if she was hesitant to let him know that she was working on the wedding. After Jim continued to ask ask about them, and seemed ready to "play" like they usually do, Pam got all giddy and was eager to go to the conference room to look at the tapes with him. I think her initial reluctance to tell Jim what she was doing was the carry over from Conflict Resolution, and it wasn't until Jim seemed OK with talking about wedding stuff that she was happy again. Her talking head comment "I'm getting along with everyone at work" was, I think, a direct reference to the fact that everything was OK between her and Jim again.

My thoughts exactly. Word for word. I was just about to post it when I read Jammer's post. Are you reading my brain?

Jul 10th 2006

JAMtastic! OMG. I had completely forgotten about Jim's comment to Kelly.

I love it when the camera gets stuff like that and as an audience to closely watching the JAM develop we can instantly see the irony (Another example of this being Jim's comment about Micheal and Dwight's friendship being dubbed over his and Pam's catch-up conversation after Jinx).

I always thought that the transition between Conflict Resolution and Casino Night was odd.

Would it be overkill to just quote Jammer's comment here and say, "Yeah"? ;o>

Jul 10th 2006

Jammer, you're right. I had forgotten about that awkward bit before the tapes and Pam's comment about getting along with everyone at work. Good point. So not so odd a transition after all, I guess -- just subtle.

And you ARE dead-on about Pam wanting the institution of marriage more than Roy. No question about that.

Andy, isn't that a great speech Jim gives Kelly? And haven't you done that yourself at some point in your love career?

Jul 11th 2006

JAMtastic, ROFL! My "love career"?! Bwah! Just the term had me almost needing to leave work to change my clothes. Sorry. It just grabbed my funny bone and wouldn't let go.

To answer your question directly, I definitely have given advice to people that I should or could take myself. No question about it.

And I firmly believe that, but for the example that I cited above when Jim commented on Michael and Dwight's friendship, Jim is well aware of the irony in his advice to Kelly - maybe not at that moment, but his decision to interview for the transfer and his talking head wherein he admits there is nothing in Scranton for him evidence his acknowledgment of his situation. sigh poor guy.

Man, I need S3 to start, like, now. Thank goodness for the webisodes tomorrow!

Jul 11th 2006

When I heard Jim give that advice to Kelly, I had thought that he was qualified to give that advice because that is what he himself had been doing. He tries to move on with his life. That's why he dated Katie (even though she wasn't his type,) he tried to hook up with Brenda, and he made many references to going out with friends. Jim has been sucking it up and trying to move on. His love for Pam though keeps smacking him in the face. He works with her everyday so he can't get away from it. So what does he do? He applies for a transfer. Yes, Jim has followed that advice all along.

One thing he told Kelly was, "it would be great if he was into you, but he isn't." Maybe what happened on Casino night was Jim needing to find out once and for all if Pam is into him. He knows that he sucks it up and tries to move on. It must have raised a question in Jim's mind whether or not Pam was doing the same thing. Why else would he have been bold enough to kiss her?

Jul 11th 2006

Plaid, that's interesting. He definitely is qualified to give that advice, and I do think he had a bit of self-awareness when he said it. I still think he's trying to convince himself in the process, though. 'Cuz let's face it -- he's been trying to get on with his life, but Pam is indeed smacking him in the face at every turn. He needs to keep telling himself that so he can move on.

I think you're right about Casino Night. He needed to find out once and for all -- before the wedding, before his transfer -- if Pam really had feelings for him or if he was imagining it. Hence the boldness and the knee-melting kiss.

But my take was that Jim didn't plan to tell Pam his feelings on Casino Night until the last minute. I thought he was overwhelmed in the moment. He was planning to suck it up, move to Stamford and get on with his life. But when he goes to tell her he's transferring, he takes a look at Pam -- the pretty dress, the hair, the flirtatious behaviour that night -- and has a thunderbolt moment. He has to take the chance and find out. I think Jim's a really decent guy, and he didn't want to mess up her life (or, let's face it, risk the wrath of Hurricane Roy). But when faced with the very real prospect of giving her up, our boy can't stand it and blurts out "I'm in love with you." That's my two cents.

Well, Andy, I certainly don't have a crazy love career myself. But I've given lots of advice I should have taken, too.

And I can barely wait until S3, too. It's insane how many more months there are!

Jul 12th 2006

But my take was that Jim didn't plan to tell Pam his feelings on Casino Night until the last minute. I thought he was overwhelmed in the moment. He was planning to suck it up, move to Stamford and get on with his life. But when he goes to tell her he's transferring, he takes a look at Pam -- the pretty dress, the hair, the flirtatious behaviour that night -- and has a thunderbolt moment.

After the initial viewing I was of the mindset that Jim had been planning that moment for a while. But after a few more viewings and seeing several people across the Net post similar theories to JAMtastic's, I've changed my mind. It's like he surprised even himself when he says "I'm in love with you", and the rest of the conversation he's scrambling for things to say to keep it going.

Here's something to think about - what if Jim didn't come up to the office afterwards and kiss Pam? She still would have had the phone conversation with her mom and the "Are you in love with him?" (I will always believe that's what she said) "I think I am" comments still would have happened. Would Pam have approached Jim the next time they saw each other and expressed her feelings for him?

Jul 12th 2006

I've firmly believed from the start that Jim had no intention of telling Pam he's in love with her in that moment. Yes, he was nervous - but because he knew Pam would most likely be upset about his likely possiblity of leaving. Only in that moment where she does what she always does with him - put him at ease, tease, flirt, look generally naturally beautiful - and he jumps in. It was the classic style of this show's writers to make the viewers think we were going to see one thing and then blast us with something completely different. Oh and don't we just love them for it, people?

As for the what if of Jim not going upstairs? Well, I think the biggest difference that made there wasn't so much made by him being there or even by him kissing her. To me, those things were just reinforcements of his earlier declaration. It's her kissing him back that changes their world for good, I think. Now, not only does he know that she's ahem interested - more importantly (I think) she knows that she's interested. Now she can't sit back and play little miss innocent. She must face her situation one way or the other.

Had Jim not shown up, had he not kissed her, had she not kissed him back, I believe that Pam could have still easily dismissed his declaration of love to her and continued on with her self-imposed blinders on. Now? Not a chance, sweetie. You may have wavered in your answer to Jim in the Parking Lot of Love, but you showed him your cards with your response to his kiss - and we're so proud of you! ;o>

Oh, and Jenan Loves Josh? I'm still not as convinced as you are that Pam's mother asked her if she's in love with Jim. I'm more leaning toward a less definitve question along the lines of "Do you have feelings for him?" I'm keeping my mind open though. Unfortunately, I'm not sure we'll ever find out what her mom asked her.

Jul 12th 2006 edited

It's her kissing him back that changes their world for good, I think.

Yep, Andy, you have it right, IMHO. And yes, I'm proud of Pam for it, too. That was a super-bold move for her. The old Pam would have pushed Jim away angrily and gotten defensive. The new Pam finally opens up to the possibility. Her kissing Jim back is the visible proof that she has those feelings and the physical manifestation of a mental paradigm shift. (Hey, all that college-essay vocab still comes in handy!)

JLJ, I think I'm with Andy -- I've never been convinced that's what Pam's mom asked, either. I always wondered if she said, "Are you having doubts about the wedding?" or something about postpoing the wedding. But the romantic in me wants me to be wrong. It would be way more delish if Pam were actually admitting to being in lurv with darling Jim.

the Parking Lot of Love

OMG, I'm killing myself laughing. I like that more than "love career." :-)

Jul 12th 2006

Yeah Andy those were good points about her kissing him back.

As far as what Pam's mom said, they say to always go with your first guess or first impression. That's what I thought she said as the scene happened so I'm staying with that thought until I'm proven wrong. It's also the way Pam says "I think I am". Her voice rises up a couple notches and displays some excitement and maybe self-realization.

There's also not many other questions that can be asked in the flow of that conversation that would receive that specific response. The "Are you having second thoughts about the wedding?" is the only other one I can think of off-hand.

It's fun to debate about and I agree that we'll probably never know for sure.

Jul 12th 2006

It's true - not many phrases fit that answer gramatically. Plus, you're right about Pam's voice rising at the end. You said it perfectly. She does sound suddenly hopeful and excited - and self-realization could be what we hear there. I'm warming up to this idea!

It is fun to wonder. I had no idea that I would ever be this into a TV show. I was a total X-Files and Seinfeld nut, but this is something totally different.

Jul 12th 2006 edited

There's also not many other questions that can be asked in the flow of that conversation that would receive that specific response. The "Are you having second thoughts about the wedding?" is the only other one I can think of off-hand.

I think there are about a million possiblities, well maybe not a million, but...

It really seems like Pam was talking about Roy when she says, "Yeah, he's great" because her voice drops to a different tone from when she says, "He's my best friend."

Her Mom could have asked,

  1. Are you going to tell Roy?

  2. Do you want to come home, and stay with us for awhile?

  3. Are you going to tell him how you really feel?

Some people think that her mother says, "Do you still think you might be pregnant?" although I don't even want to assign that one a number. I don't even want to think of that possibility.

Jul 12th 2006

Don't know if this has been thrown out there (then I'm the one to do it); maybe there is no "Pam's Mom" dialogue written. Maybe all there is in the script is Pam's dialogue, and Mom's words are left to interpretation...even by Jenna/Pam. Has she ever commented on that? (a la no dialogue between Jim & Pam after the kiss...) Jenna would have had to make up her own mind as to what her mom was asking her, and reacting accordingly. —Deliberately vague answers to non-existent questions so that we can all mull over & debate the scene the entire summer. Hmm?

Jul 12th 2006 edited

I'm enjoying this Jeopardy-style game of "What was the question(s)" to Pam's responses to her mom on the phone!

While I agree, on the one hand, that many questions could fit into those niches, when I've analyzed the scene I'm taking Jim's parking lot declaration, the fact that Pam has (as we all well know) spoken several if not many, many times to her mother about Jim (and a mommy can sense things, ya know?), Pam's actual responses over the phone, her initial (interrupted) "Listen, Jim --", as well as her return of The Kiss.

To me, all of those things play into and narrow what question could have actually been asked by Pam's mom. Out of the three suggestions by Plaid up above, I'm not sure I'm convinced any of them would really fit well. I too will not speak of the un-numbered suggestion (blech!). But out of the three numbered suggestions:

  1. Are you going to tell Roy?

This one is the most likely out of the three, I think. But from the very little that we've seen/heard from Pam's mom, my gut tells me that Mom has already sensed her daughter's -- let's call it "interest" in Jim and wouldn't go right to a question that would, in my opinion, be somewhat in the realm of a guilt trip.

  1. Do you want to come home, and stay with us for awhile?

This one seems the next likeliest option of the three - this offer, it seems to me, would be coming from out of the blue. Don't Pam's parents live 2.5 hours away? Pam's in a tailspin in this moment and, I think, is calling her mom for some help on calming herself and getting her bearings. I can't imagine Pam making such a quick decision (remember her response "Yeah, I think I do.") that would not only affect her engagement/living situation with Roy but also her work situation.

  1. Are you going to tell him how you really feel?

This, to me, seems the least likely of all only because I think, as I said above, at this moment, during this phone conversation, Pam has no idea what she's feeling...she as much as says so, "I don't know, Mom. He's my best friend." I don't think there is any possibly way that this specific question would evoke the answer that we hear from Pam.

Whew!

After all that, I will say this: Whatever it was Pam's mom did say to her, I do believe it was something that 1.) got Pam to at least verbally acknowledge that she feels more toward Jim than just friendship and 2.) gave her the guts to return Jim's kiss

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