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Feb 19th 2006 edited
  • Season 2 : Episode 10
  • First aired on December 6, 2005
  • Written by Michael Schur
  • Directed by Charles McDougall
  • Northern Attack Recap

Like booze ever killed anybody.

Feb 21st 2006

Wow. Was Michael mean in this ep, or what? I felt sooo badly for Phyllis. I couldn't make an over mitt. But then, I'm not terribly domestic.

Jim's little bonus presents were beyond adorable. I wish this guy was real (and had a brother for me!)

May 19th 2006 edited

OMG! I was just rewatching this episode and in the very first shot, we see Pam stuffing the Dunder Mifflin Christmas cards into envelopes. I just realized that it is the exact same cast photo that I have as part of my Stupendous Office Loot. Wow, that is so cool.

May 22nd 2006

Notice when Pam is in the breakroom with Daryl and Roy while they are talking about Sean Alexander and their Fantasy Football teams, they repeatedly use the words/phrase, "It is WORTH IT." At the same time, Pam is peering through the blinds at Dwight who is fondling the teapot Jim intended for her. And in the next scene, we find out that she in fact traded her highly coveted iPod for the teapot. Worth it? Yes, she admits to the camera.

May 22nd 2006

Shaun Alexander should never be traded for a defense in fantasy football though. The teapot trade can be explained... the fantasy football deal can not.

May 22nd 2006

Shaun Alexander should never be traded for a defense in fantasy football though. The teapot trade can be explained... the fantasy football deal can not.

Yeah, someone should have caught that. The value difference is...incalculcable.

Jun 30th 2006

Thoughts and observations from a second viewing:

  • Michael was funny as heck but way over the top. No one is that self-absorbed and that clueless to other people's feeling are they? I hope not. From thinking he should call Devon to tell him some good came out of his firing to his treatment of Phyllis to telling Darryl he doesn't work as Santa to ripping off Dwight's elf ears and throwing them in his face, he was downright diabolical in this episode.
  • Christmas at the Schrute house must have been a lot of fun.
  • Creed's "Which one is Pam" will never be topped but his reaction to Jim's explanation of the Secret Santa gift was pretty darned good.
  • Ryan originally getting Kelly's nameplate was a nice foreshadowing.
  • I really dislike Angela (I mean that in a good way) but it was hard not to feel sorry for her, with her breakdown in her talking head, Michael announcing Ryan was the king of the party commitee, and Kelly kissing her man.
  • Speaking of Kelly kissing Dwight, this is one of the few things the writers have done that didn't work for me. I thought it seemed out of place during the original viewing and last night's viewing didn't change my opinion. Although it did lead to Angela's terrifying screams as she threw the ornaments against the wall. That will probably give me nightmares.
  • I have to admit that I've never understood the "Machiavelli meets Christmas" comment. Can anyone explain it?
  • Glad Jim pocketed the card. Too early in the show and better to tell her, both in the show and in real life.
Jun 30th 2006

Jenna Loves Josh,

I totally agree with the Kelly kissing Dwight thing. So very out of character. Not even a drunk Kelly would kiss Dwight. I just don't buy it. This was the second time she did something "unKelly like". The first was when she slapped Michael in Diversity Day. I didn't think that would be a Kelly response. I mean, she slapped her boss! So, Christmas was my second "Huh?" moment for Kelly.

Jun 30th 2006

The first was when she slapped Michael in Diversity Day. I didn't think that would be a Kelly response. I mean, she slapped her boss!

Yeah, and she slapped him hard, too.

Last night's episodes were my two favorite of all time. The Christmas one was the first one I ever watched. Last night was only the 2nd time I've seen it, so I caught a lot of little things I missed the first time. I loved the part where Meredith picks Phyllis' oven mitt during Yankee Swap. Not funny, but so realistic, and it says a lot about Meredith, whom we usually only get to see as a drunk.

Jun 30th 2006

I loved the part where Meredith picks Phyllis' oven mitt during Yankee Swap

I did too, LT. Another thing I noticed was the timely introduction of Bob Vance. (and what an introduction...) The episode reveals Michael at his 2-year-old worst, with Phyllis bearing the brunt of it (ok, Dwight too, but Dwight very often deserves it.) I've grown to truly love Phyllis so the re-viewing of Michael's insensitivity was doubly hard. But then Bob arrives and she is all smiles. She's dancing, having a ball; Michael's unkindness pushed aside as unconsequential. As should be.

Jun 30th 2006

she even dances with Michael during the party. maybe she forgave him?

Jul 1st 2006

she even dances with Michael during the party. maybe she forgave him?

Yeah, booze always helps you to forget when someone slights you ;-p

I'm amused at the people taken aback by Michael's behaviour on Christmas (doubt they'd actually be in the office on Christmas Day). He's basically a big kid most of the time, and kids look forward to Christmas mostly because they get a ton of stuff (or the spoiled ones do, anyways). Michael just has very little tact, and apparently none of it when he came into the office that morning. If anything, it was totally in character for him to behave the way he did.

I think NBC's plan might be to show back-to-back episodes highlighting different aspects of the show (based on the Michael-centric Injury airing soon after the Michael-as-party-pooper Christmas Party). Here's hoping they do a "Jam-centric" showcase next week, or at least some of Dwight's classic moments.

Jul 1st 2006 edited

DRUG TESTING
8:30pm 2006-07-06

When Dwight (Rainn Wilson) finds half a joint in the Dunder Mifflin parking lot, he puts on his Volunteer Sheriff's uniform and launches a full investigation -- prompting Michael (Golden Globe winner Steve Carell) to ask for an unusual favor. Pam (Jenna Fischer) playfully issues a challenge to Jim (John Krasinski) and he does his best to follow through with it. B.J. Novak , Leslie David Baker, Brian Baumgartner, Kate Flannery, Angela Kinsey, Oscar Nunez, Phyllis Smith, Melora Hardin and David Denham also star. TV-14

CONFLICT RESOLUTION
9pm 2006-07-06

When Michael (Golden Globe winner Steve Carell) takes over conflict resolution duties from HR, chaos ensues at Dunder Mifflin. Rainn Wilson, Jenna Fischer, John Krasinski, B.J. Novak, Leslie David Baker, Brian Baumgartner, Kate Flannery, Angela Kinsey, Oscar Nunez, Phyllis Smith, Melora Hardin and Paul Lieberstein also star. TV-14

CASINO NIGHT - SEASON FINALE 9:30pm 2006-07-06

*In the season finale, Michael (Golden Globe winner Steve Carell) and the Dunder Mifflin crew hold a Casino Night for charity in their warehouse and take some big gambles. Rainn Wilson, Jenna Fischer, John Krasinski, B.J. Novak, Leslie David Baker, Brian Baumgartner, Kate Flannery, Angela Kinsey, Oscar Nunez, Phyllis Smith, Melora Hardin and David Denham also star. TV-14 *

Sep 17th 2006

Hey there - Does anyone have copies of the Christmas Party photos that Michael took during this episode? They were posted on NBC.com, but have since been pulled in favor of a series of screencaps and broken links. I used to have the pics, but due to a hard drive crash, they have been lost. Any help anyone can give would be GREATLY appreciated! Thanks!

JM

Sep 21st 2006

Anyone?

Apr 25th 2007 edited

Can't help you JohnMaxwell. By the way, did anyone else feel really bad during this episode for Angela? I just watched it for the fifth or sixth time, and she:

*Sees Kelly kiss her secret boyfriend
*Is called a sucker by Michael
*Gets the party planning taken away from her.

Anyone?

(the bullets on Markdown weren't working)

Apr 25th 2007 edited

I think Machiavelli meets Christmas is referring to the cutthroat nature of the swap game. Although I've played it with it being cutthroat. The Health Care episode was what hooked me, but this one was what reeled me in.

This maybe should go in the Michaelisms thread, but I love at the end when he's got two cases of vodka coming down the grocery store conveyor belt and he asks the clerk if that's enough to get fifteen people drunk.

Jul 31st 2007

Question: Will a Christmas episode be in the line-up this year as well. I would have to say the past two have been great. This one in particular had great JAM moments and the scene where Dwight shoves the teapot spout up his nose is freaking hilarious, as is Jim's response. Thoughts on what would occur? Or are they going to the well too often? (*though it is traditional for every show to do a Christmas episode, and kudos for the writers doing a CHRISTMAS party, not a politically correct "Holiday" party)

Jul 31st 2007

I agree the last one was great, though still a close second to Yankee Swap! How great were the Pam-Karen scenes? We had such high hopes then, didn't we?

Jul 31st 2007

How great were the Pam-Karen scenes? We had such high hopes then, didn't we?

That Pam would smack her?

Jul 31st 2007

and kudos for the writers doing a CHRISTMAS party, not a politically correct "Holiday" party

I don't think American television really has any problem with being overly secular. It's like congratulating somone for having the guts to do a positive review on their first shot at reviewing movies or movies: It assumes a lot of things that aren't true.

Jul 31st 2007

and kudos for the writers doing a CHRISTMAS party, not a politically correct "Holiday" party

I don't think that a "Holiday" party is anymore politically correct than a Christmas party since there are many who don't celebrate holidays. I would not participate in Secret Santa so they changed it to Secret Friend and changed the Christmas Party to Winter Social. I felt a little like I had compromised my stand for attending because it was the same thing under the guise of a different name, but they had gone through all of the trouble of making the changes just so I could be there.

Jul 31st 2007

It's like congratulating somone for having the guts to do a positive review on their first shot at reviewing movies or movies: It assumes a lot of things that aren't true.

Continue.

Jul 31st 2007

A lot of people assume that people feel pressure to be negative about movies or television shows to prove their bona fides. I suppose some people do. But the vast majority of people who get into the business of reviewing movies or television do it because they love movies or television. It doesn't strike me as particularly gutsy to say, "Hi, I'm Linus, and I really liked Sunshine!" or whatever. I've never felt any pressure in that regard, though to be fair I haven't reviewed a movie in any kind of official, for-pay fashion in years. My experience is really that it's a lot of fun to tell people about something good.

The way this relates to the other thing is that I don't think it takes any particular guts to have something Christmas-themed in this most religious of Christian countries. I doubt seriously that anybody feels any very strong pressure to not do Christmas stuff on television, given that a fairly strong majority of people in the country claim a Christian affinity of one sort or another, to one degree or another.

Jul 31st 2007 edited

I agree with DFTF and glad that he elaborated. I don't celebrate Christmas but I'm not offended by Xmas episodes on TV. Afterall it's my choice whether or not I watch them. It's simple enough to push the button on the remote and change to another channel. Do I feel as if I'm allowing something I don't believe in into my livingroom when I watch these episodes? Sometimes, but it's The Office. The compromise is totally understandable.

Jul 31st 2007

I agree that none of that pressure really exists for television programming. The "guts" shown in this instance don't belong to the writers/producers/whatever so much as they do to Michael for throwing an actual Christmas party in his office (not that we would expect Michael to be PC). You have the option to choose what TV programming you watch, so it can be as religious as it wants to be, and there's no pressure not to. The situations where this pressure exists are places where people don't have the option of removing themselves, like workplaces or schools, and perhaps government (local, state, federal, whatever) sponsored functions.

Jul 31st 2007

Good point TRBF.

Jul 31st 2007 edited

DftF said:

It's like congratulating somone for having the guts to do a positive review on their first shot at reviewing movies or movies: It assumes a lot of things that aren't true.

Now lets go back in time...to July 17th.

Big-Tuna Fishing said:

So good news (maybe this should be in the Pretzel thread, but oh well)...I'm a TV reviewer for The Two Cents! It's official! My 'beat' consists of Man vs. Wild and Friday Night Lights (when that show starts again on Oct. 5), so my poor TiVo is gonna get a workout on Fridays @ 9pm. In fact, the Fishings may invest in a dual-tuner TiVo box for the low, low, LOW price of $99--on the TiVo website. Anyway, my first review is up (warning: it's way long, first one ever), so if you want to take a gander, let me know what you think. Honest and constructive criticism is always welcome.

I said:

I liked it, and way to go, not being afraid to give a high grade on your first review on a site.

I say
Ouch!

Jul 31st 2007

I didn't say that, but I did say that those are two of my favorite shows :-)

Jul 31st 2007

whoops, fixing!

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