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2.13 The Secret
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Feb 19th 2006 edited
  • Season 2 : Episode 13
  • First aired on January 19, 2006
  • Written by Lee Eisenberg and Gene Stupnitsky
  • Directed by Dennie Gordon
  • Northern Attack Recap

If I had to, I could clean out my desk in five seconds, and nobody would ever know I had ever been here. And I’d forget, too.

Mar 9th 2006 edited

I guess Jim said it best "I confided in the world's worst confidante"

Michael( Upon seeing Pam with her hair down) "heeey Mikey Likey" -- Too funny

And the whole "What's up dog?" sequence is a classic

Trace

Apr 17th 2006

Watch the background behind Pam when Jim first approaches her in the kitchen near the end. You can see a gray mop of curly hair. Is that Marjorie, the never-seen fifteenth employee of the office? She was glimpsed briefly in Office Olympics and The Fight, and she's definitely got hair like that. Why would they bring her back to show up in the background of one shot? More importantly, why am I thinking about this?

Apr 17th 2006 edited

tad gupty,

I've seen the mysterious Marjorie many times and in more episodes than you mentioned. Since new episodes of The Office are in short supply at the moment, I'm planning a season 2 marathon at my house. I'll watch for Marjorie and report her appearances. Something to do...

Edit: The report is in. In season 2, Marjorie can be spied in Office Olympics, The Fight, The Secret, The Carpet, and Dwight's Speech.

Apr 19th 2006

It would be funny if Marjorie was caught feeling left out and performing her own talking heads without the camera. That would be awesome.

Jul 13th 2006 edited

Okay, what's going on?

They were supposed to show the Pilot followed by The Secret tonight 7/13. My guide shows that The Secret has been removed. There's also no Office being scheduled for next Thursday.

Has the same thing happened to everyones Thursday night line-up?

Jul 13th 2006

Yes, and furthermore, I've had it screw around with "The Office" on other weeks too this summer...I missed "The Injury" a couple weeks ago because the Dish Network guide said it would be on at 8:30, not 8.

I could've written that off to a bad Dish Network listing, but now this...and my newspaper (the St. Louis Post-Dispatch) listed "The Secret" for 8 in its Everyday section today, I checked. What's the deal? Is this some sort of bizarro NBC marketing strategy where they try to trick viewers into watching shows they weren't planning on watching?

Interdepartmental conspiracy, perhaps? Everyone in the conference room. We need to talk.

Jul 14th 2006

They showed the results show for America's Got Talent at 9:30 last night...ticked me off

Aug 24th 2006 edited

I can't believe this episode is ranked 17th on Office Tally. It's without question in my top 5 and it may be my favorite.

Anyway, it was fun to watch the scene with Jim & Michael after the secret is out having watched the E! video where John admits he always cracks up when Steve acts emotional. Notice they don't show the two together, especially during Michael's "I hope this doesn't affect our friendship" line. I'll bet they had to film the two of them separately. And when Michael gives Jim the crotch hug, you can tell John is a split second away from losing it.

Aug 25th 2006

ok, i hope i don't get laughed at, but you people here seem so nice, so i'll ask the question and take my punishment...

pam's pink coat in this episode... anyone know what it is? i think my wife would like one for her birthday. she digs pink... too much pink around my house already, but this coat looked cool.

ok, thanks for not laughing too hard at me.

Aug 25th 2006

Wow. Coming onto a message board to ask about a coat for your wife for Christmas. That's dedication!

Jenna Loves Josh -- I thought the same thing! That scene must have been such a pain to film. I hope they have a commentary for that episode and explain that on the DVD.

Aug 25th 2006 edited

Jenna Loves Josh: I totally agree. I'm really enjoying these reruns because of stuff I missed before, and stuff I've learned since. Just watched The Secret (taped from Thurs.) and it's gotta be in my top 5 as well. The big JAM scene has some really awesome, subtle work from both actors but particularly Jenna...really great reactions. And Michael's hair, Hooter's, breakdown, crotch hug...just a great episode. Gonna have to look up who wrote it.

edit: ok...it was tough to look up...had to scroll upward slightly...

Aug 25th 2006

edtrash: I'm no help wih the coat, but kudos for your b-day efforts.

Aug 28th 2006

I think someone asked Jenna on myspace about the coat. She went to look at the tag and it said....something. I dont remember. Sorry!

Jan 25th 2008

So I knew there wouldn't have been much talk about the episode but I didn't expect it all to be about a coat and a scheduling snafu!

Anyway... I am listening to a podcast and I haven't actually seen the episode in a while but I had a moment of revelation. Jim confesses to Michael that he likes Pam and Michael blabs it. Michael then feels absolutely terrible about it and apologizes. Later, in season three at the Convention, Jim confesses again to Michael that his feelings for Pam were way more than a crush. We viewers were hoping (I was hoping) that Michael would blab again but he never says a word to Pam. Never. I think he doesn't want to betray Jim again, especially after Jim confirms that Michael was a good boss and not the reason he leaves for Stamford. Michael blunders all the time, but he doesn't deliberately hurt people. He's not going to hurt people again. I do wonder if that plays into the estrangement between Jim and Pam for so long.

Also... I think Jim was really hoping Pam would take a few steps toward him (metaphorically) when he took a few steps toward her by bringing the gossip to her. That's not very insightful. But I also think he was worried that it would get to Roy before it got to Pam and he absolutely did not want her to learn it from Roy. That would wreck it, and it would make the news too easy for Pam to dismiss, because Roy would have a reason for twisting it (either by downplaying or exaggerating). Plus Roy is between them enough already... why invite him into this moment, too?

Jan 25th 2008

Michael blunders all the time, but he doesn't deliberately hurt people. He's not going to hurt people again. I do wonder if that plays into the estrangement between Jim and Pam for so long.

I still wonder how he couldn't have said anything. He wouldn't have been trying to hurt anyone, but he really has no self-control.

Also... I think Jim was really hoping Pam would take a few steps toward him (metaphorically) when he took a few steps toward her by bringing the gossip to her.

That always seemed like a butt-covering move to me. Everyone else in the office knew and he knew it was only time before it got back to her. Damage control. I loved this episode.

Jan 25th 2008

That always seemed like a butt-covering move to me

TWSS, possibly.

Jan 25th 2008

TWSS, possibly.

It certainly has the potential.

Jan 25th 2008

It certainly has the potential.

TWSS

Jan 27th 2008

Also... I think Jim was really hoping Pam would take a few steps toward him (metaphorically) when he took a few steps toward her by bringing the gossip to her. That's not very insightful. But I also think he was worried that it would get to Roy before it got to Pam and he absolutely did not want her to learn it from Roy.

I think that once Jim realized the entire office knew about his crush on Pam, he had no choice but to tell her himself. That would give him the chance to explain to her that it was in the past because everyone would tell Pam that Jim has a crush on her now. He did look a little hopeful though, when Pam mentioned that she thought he did. I agree with KarenM's thought that it could have led to "more than that" depending on how Pam responded to what Jim told her.

Jan 27th 2008

I think he got hopeful because it sounded like she was about to say "yeah, I kind of did too/had a crush on you too" (although that would have been wrong because of her fiance), but that's what I thought was going to come out of her mouth when I first watched the episode. And my favorite moment from that is Jim's TH where he explains that he used to have a crush on her but doesn't anymore...that pause between "and now I.....don't" is perfect. He fumbles and looks away and it's so obvious he's lying...that moment is absolutely perfect.

Jan 27th 2008

He did look a little hopeful though, when Pam mentioned that she thought he did. I agree with KarenM's thought that it could have led to "more than that" depending on how Pam responded to what Jim told her.

But being the Jim that we know, he had to crush any chance of that by insisting "I'm completely over it." which devastates her. Michael's later blunder salvages everything.

Jan 27th 2008

Didn't think this would have so little comments. It's such a rich episode for me. I was watching the DVD commentaries and John mentioned something I hadn't noticed during the many times I watched that scene. And it's a very cute John moment on the commentary. Anyway he mentions that he loves how Pam looks excited that he said something and then when he says he is over it her face falls. I swear to you I didn't notice the change before he mentioned. I noticed she was kinda sad but not the excitment. It's very subtle(sp?). But she does look excited, she is trying to hide it but she does. Kuddos for both John and Jenna there. What puzzles me is why was Pam excited that he said something. Was is just the happiness of having a confirmation or was she feeling flattered? It confuses me. I never thought excitment would be something she'd feel upon that confession.

Now can I awww over John in that DVD commentary? It's so cute when he says that is his favorite scene and waits for Jenna's reaction and then says "awww". It's cute that Jenna cried after that scene too. that was very sensitive of her, shows how into character she is.

Jan 27th 2008 edited

italianfood, I didn't notice until hearing the commentary as well. The change from your link above to this one is so subtle and really so critical to the whole story that it is fortunate that we have the later scene with Michael where we can see she is happy to find out that his feelings aren't really in the past. This episode and Drug Testing are perhaps my two favorites because of the delicate way they bring the two characters together.

Jan 27th 2008

The change from your link above to this one is so subtle and really so critical to the whole story

That's funny because the rise and fall screenshots that italianfood and DC referred to were totally different from what I thought we were talking about. I was referring to this and this. There sure is some great acting in that kitchen scene. There is so much more told from their eyes than from the words they said to each other.

Jan 27th 2008

There sure is some great acting in that kitchen scene. There is so much more told from their eyes than from the words they said to each other.

Jenna does a great job of that all through the episode don't you think? The scene in Michael's office has the same sort of transition that tells you everything in just a flash.

Jan 27th 2008

The scene in Michael's office has the same sort of transition that tells you everything in just a flash.

She's an extremely gifted actress. She can do so much with just an expression or just her eyes. I'm convinced she can do some amazing work in the future, depending on what direction she goes with her script choices.

But, then, she's already done some amazing work in The Office, and that's more than a lot of actors ever get. She always seems very grateful for the opportunity, too, which says a lot for her.

Jan 28th 2008

She's an extremely gifted actress. She can do so much with just an expression or just her eyes. I'm convinced she can do some amazing work in the future, depending on what direction she goes with her script choices.

I hoping she makes a movie I'm actually interested in seeing in the theaters. I'm not sure why she hasn't ended up in any small indie films. A movie like "Waitress" would seem like a good fit for her.

Jan 28th 2008

She's an extremely gifted actress. She can do so much with just an expression or just her eyes. I'm convinced she can do some amazing work in the future, depending on what direction she goes with her script choices.

I hoping she makes a movie I'm actually interested in seeing in the theaters. I'm not sure why she hasn't ended up in any small indie films. A movie like "Waitress" would seem like a good fit for her.

Agreed. I've seen discussion in other boards about her lack of ability to act. I was shocked. I've never seen any of her movies other than Lollilove, but her facial expression in The Office are so rich, believable and spontaneous. I heard people ask her if she is ever gonna do drama. Although The office is a comedy show I think the character of Pam has a lot of dramatic depth. I believe she would do great in a movie that is a little bit more dramatic than the ones she has done.

Jan 28th 2008

She's an extremely gifted actress. She can do so much with just an expression or just her eyes.

I'm equally impressed with JK. The scene that comes to mind is in Halloween. When Pam tries to convince Jim to take the job at Cumberland Mills. You can tell by his reaction that Jim has convinced himself that Pam also has strong feelings for him. At first he can't believe that she is even suggesting that he move so far away and he reacts as though she is just kidding. Then when he realizes that she is serious he is completely crushed but tries to play it off as though she does have a good idea. Right at that moment he realizes then that Pam can't possibly feel for him the same as he does for her. All of that is evident in just a few seconds solely because of Jim's facial expressions.

The next one that JK impresses me with is the few seconds after Pam kisses him in The Dundies. You can tell every emotion that is going through him even though he tries to play that one off too.

It's no coincidence that the world is rooting for JAM. It's the result of some superior acting.

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