Not signed in (Sign In)
Welcome to The Watercooler, the companion forum to Northern Attack and all things concerning The Office on NBC.

Guests are free to browse the forums, although you will need to register for an account if you wish to participate in the discussions or use any of the advanced features of the forum (bookmarks, history, etc).

If you already have an account, please sign in now.

The Watercooler is powered by Vanilla, the sweetest forum on the web.

Bottom of Page
What WERE They Thinking?: The DVD Commentaries
  1. <
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. >
1 to 30 of 67
Sep 5th 2007

I did a search and we don't yet have a topic to discuss the insightful, funny, and insider-y commentary the cast and crew makes for certain episodes. The commentaries are my favorite part of the DVDs, just because I like to hear them all interact as themselves, rather than as their characters. Plus, you learn fun little tidbits about the episodes. That's always a nice thing.

Sep 5th 2007 edited

Yay, I was looking for a commentaries thread! I really enjoyed all of the commentaries that had one of the writers on it because we got some of the inside scoop on what they were thinking when they wrote this stuff. I also really enjoyed Jenna because I think she knows what the fans want to hear and she gives us cool insights. Ed on the commentaries was awesome. He made me laugh on quite a few occasions. I was a little disappointed that John didn't have more to say on The Job commentary. It felt like he wasn't even there for the second half of the episode.

By the way, in the Initiation commentary, BJ sounded like he wasn't too happy with the episode or the way it was edited. Pretty interresting.

Sep 5th 2007

I also really enjoyed Jenna

That's what a lot of us wish we could say.

Sep 5th 2007 edited

The commentaries can be great. But after watching the comments during The Coup last night, I've got to say that when it comes to commentaries, I think that any more than 3 in the room (or out of the room) is too many. More than three and they talk over eachother and it dilutes the final product, imo. And I'm with John, who made a comment that he was trying to listen to certain great lines in the scene, rather than listen to others go off on less interesting tangents. (Ok the less interesting part is mine.) I personally like it best when they follow the scene and comment on aspects of the scene plus add a few interesting side notes. Otherwise, I'd prefer it in a panel discussion format. That is cool too, but not both together. It's distracting.

Sep 5th 2007

Oh and I hate when someone is talking and saying something interesting about the scene and then someone else cuts them off and we never hear the end of what the first person was saying. Leslie did a lot of this and it kind of irked me.

Sep 5th 2007

Some are definitely better at the commentary than others, but I still like to hear them banter a bit. Jenna does always have great insights during her commentary, so she's probably my favorite.

Sep 5th 2007

I was spoiled early on for television commentaries by watching Joss Whedon's consistently fascinating commentaries on Buffy. It turns out most commentaries are kind of worthless, especially (in my opinion) the ones where there are nineteen people in the room and all they do is sort of giggle and cut each other off. I still haven't watched about half of the commentaries from Season 2, because most of them contained very little of what I actually wanted to hear -- which was background on why things were done in a certain way, how they were done, and who threw up on the day they were shooting a scene in 100 degree heat. Things like that, you know.

Sep 5th 2007

I like to have at least one writer or Greg Daniels in a commentary to kind of give those insights about the making of the show. The actual 'process', if you will. But it's also nice to hear about how Rainn and John interact off camera, or their random shoutouts to the 'internet fans' and how we pick everything apart meticulously. I kinda puff out my chest a little when I hear that :)

Sep 5th 2007

Those actually can be kind of fun, and again I return to the Buffy commentaries for stellar examples, both from Seth Green, who in fact told a story about having a stomach bug during one scene, and he goes, "Here, I'm delivering my line . . . line, line line . . . (Oz leaves camera) . . . and there I'm throwing up."

Another classic unscripted Seth Green line was from that same commentary, during which he said, "I was not kidding with those sideburns." Which I liked so much that I've sort of adapted it to all sorts of other arenas.

Sep 5th 2007

Speaking of Joss Whedon, the interview they have of him on one of the discs is a lot shorter than what I remember seeing on youtube back when Business School came out.

Sep 5th 2007

Yes, me too. I was . . . well, a little disappointed by it, frankly. Much as I love The Office, it's destined to be sublimated to my Buffy-related desires most of the time.

Sep 5th 2007

Okay, only seen "The Coup" and "The Initiation" commentary, and I like The Coup, but Leslie SUCKS at commentary.

Sep 5th 2007

Totally agree. Leslie seems like an incredibly nice guy but comments like "this is the part where Michael comes down from his sugar high"... snore.

Found it interesting that BJ comments that the Stamford branch scenes were the boring parts and without John being on the set in Scranton, the dymanic changed for the worse. Sounds like maybe he wasn't on board with how Daniels "resolved" S2 and began S3.

Sep 5th 2007

I watched "The Job" w/ commentary at lunch and it was so-so. I was expecting a lot more from John, but he was pretty quiet. I like Melora's comments, but she talks SO much...maybe that's why John didn't say but two words the whole time. :)

Sep 5th 2007

I watched "The Job" w/ commentary at lunch and it was so-so. I was expecting a lot more from John, but he was pretty quiet. I like Melora's comments, but she talks SO much...maybe that's why John didn't say but two words the whole time.

I haven't had a chance to watch but I'm already bummed about this. They obviously know that the fans are interested on Jenna/John's takes on the events of this episode, espcially since we were robbed of any of John's input from Casino Night on S2 dvd. They need to get their acts together on these commentaries.

Sep 5th 2007

Yeah - that was my beef with last years' commentaries too. How could they do commentary for Casino Night and NOT have John participate?!?!? I don't care if he was shooting a movie or saving orphans in Tibet, make him come in to give his two cents on that episode and then let him go back to whatever he was doing.

But Jenna gives some great little insights on "The Job" so that made up for John's muteness. And Ken Kwapis is on the commentary too, which was nice.

Sep 5th 2007

I agree with the so-so rating on the commentary for The Job. Some of the scenes I was hoping for more insight into were the ones where the discussion was off on a tangent.

I was a little disappointed with the comments about Jim not reaching his full potential career-wise since he wouldn't be getting the position in NY. I understand what they were trying to say, but I see it from a different perspective. When he was asked where he sees himself in five years, he really takes a moment to think about what he wants, and in his heart he knows that what will make him happiest is not the job title he holds. So I don't see it as a trade-off of "settling" for a lesser job to get what he wants in his personal life, but rather his coming to the realization of where his priorities lie and making the best decision for himself.

Sep 5th 2007 edited

I too found the comments about Jim's 'choice' being a denial of his professional self. He is certainly at an age and point in life where there are many, many opportunities ahead. He actually CAN at this point make a personal choice without sacrificing his whole career.

Leslie is a funny Stanley, but provides narration rather than commentary. And Melora....well, at my house we call it 'talking to hear yourself talk."

And - I will say that I was amused that John commented on the intricacies of Angela's bun in "Traveling Salesman/the Return" as it was a topic of discussion here.

When I went to purchase at Target at about 7p, the Target lady had to go to the back and brought out the last 5 - by the time she returned, there were three of us waiting. So....someone wants to stop, look and listen.

Sep 5th 2007

saving orphans in Tibet

Oh, that old excuse?

But Jenna gives some great little insights on "The Job" so that made up for John's muteness. And Ken Kwapis is on the commentary too, which was nice.

So Jenna's cuteness trumps John's muteness?

Sep 5th 2007

Indeed it does, Brian. Even her voice is cute...she and James are splitting up, so there's hope for you (I posted about it just now on the Pam Beesley thread).

Sep 5th 2007

so there's hope for you

My wife might object. There's a saying in my family. We don't divorce. We bury. It's a little harsh, but it's good for the old family unity.

Sep 5th 2007

I've got to say that when it comes to commentaries, I think that any more than 3 in the room (or out of the room) is too many. More than three and they talk over eachother and it dilutes the final product.

I haven't watched the commentaries yet, but I have to agree with you there, GT. It is way too distracting to have more than 3 or 4 people commenting on the episode. It makes it hard to keep track of who is saying what. This was my complaint with the S2 commentaries. I also agree that Melora talks way too much, glad I'm not the only one who thought so.

Sep 6th 2007

I haven't listened yet either, but I'd say we're all pretty much in agreement that too many cooks ruin the commentary (or something like that), and that the key actors in an episodes should be in on the commentary for that episode. It seems very simple, so why don't they do it that way?

Sep 6th 2007

The commentary for Initiation was well done...just BJ, Rainn and maaaaaybe someone else. BJ talked about the writing and editing, Rainn riffed off of him and it all was quite nice to listen to.

Sep 6th 2007

I have listened to a few more - and I am most satisfied by the enlightenment of at least one writer - otherwise, it's often a lot of "OH, I LOVE this scene"

Sep 6th 2007

This reminds of that idea we had of doing commentaries. I think we should still do it. And I believe we would have some interesting things to say that apparently haven't been said already by the cast....I haven't watched any commentaries yet, but if it's a lot of

"OH, I LOVE this scene"

then....we could do better.

Sep 6th 2007

I think we should still do it.

Me, too. Didn't we suggest a limit of three people per commentary? I think that's a pretty good idea in general.

Sep 6th 2007 edited

Ok...Anque was spearheading this to begin with, along with Brian. How about we bump it up to four people, and me, DftF, Anque and Brian attempt to do this. I'll send you guys emails. (I'm not purposely leaving anybody out...so don't feel bad...there are a lot of episodes to comment on).

Sep 6th 2007

I can't believe I missed this, but:

I think we should still do it.

That's what Jan said to Michael.

Sep 6th 2007 edited

I have a question/request for clarification: Are these commentaries going to be something that someone could listen to without having to follow along with the episode? Basically, it would just be us talking, and maybe an audio clip of bits of a scene?

Edit: DftF, I don't have your email..can you email me?

  1. <
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. >
1 to 30 of 67
Top of PageBack to discussions