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Jim Halpert : I could work here for years
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Jun 8th 2006

I think Jim made the cutest expression on the Casino Night episode. During the poker game between Jim and Pam, right after Jim says, "I think you're bluffing" Pam makes a Maybe I am, Maybe I'm not, sort of gesture. Then Jim squints his eyes and looks at her as if he's trying to read her mind or something. He's just adorable there.

Jun 8th 2006 edited

I think this may have been touched upon in a different thread...

I saw posts about how Jim was probably not popular in high school, etc...but I'm having a hard time seeing that. The impression I get is that he was probably pretty popular, maybe even a class clown type kid. And his skills on the basketball court make me think he played for the high school team (didn't he say something about that in the b-ball episode?). I think Jim Halpert was well liked by virtually everyone in school- all the "cliques." He's a natural leader. And he was also the rare type of high school kid that was nice to everyone in return - whether you were considered a nerd, jock, outcast or on the debate team. I see this because of how he treats the ensemble of co-workers at Dunder Mifflin.

He's laid back and non-confrontational for the most part, which would explain the pathetic display at the end of The Alliance, where Jim wimped out when Roy came upstairs.

I'm not saying Jim was class prez or prom king at school, but I think he was your typical goofy, cute, all- American good guy that everyone liked - teachers and students. He might not have had a lot of girlfriends because I see him as the type who liked to hang out with his male friends - probably because no girl was special enough to catch his attention. Not until he met Pam.

Thoughts?

Jun 8th 2006 edited

He's laid back and non-confrontational for the most part, which would explain the pathetic display at the end of The Alliance, where Jim totally wimped out when Roy came upstairs.

ILB - I agree with your asessment of High School Jim (great, funny, well-liked guys don't get that way overnight), but though I also agree that the confrontation with Roy was pathetic, it was Roy's display that I thought was sad. "You trying to cop a feel?" I know he was jealous of what he saw, but he really didn't need to go there. Like that's what would be happening in the middle of the office with people around. And Jim's reaction: half shock at that suggestion, and half guilt because of his feelings for Pam. I never thought Jim "wimped out". What should he have done; called the guy out?

Jun 8th 2006

I never thought Jim "wimped out". What should he have done; called the guy out?

Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight!

Jun 8th 2006

I never thought Jim "wimped out". What should he have done; called the guy out?

Perhaps "wimped out" was the wrong choice of words. I have White Hot Hate for Roy and I don't like the fact that Jim is intimidated by that clueless doof. Pam seems to be aware of the fact that Jim isn't Roy's biggest cheerleader, which leads me to believe that JAM have quite possibly talked about Roy/RAM more than what we've been privy to (like in Booze Cruise and Conflict Resolution).

I hate that Jim doesn't seem to have the guts to stick up for himself when Roy's around whether it's in The Alliance or Boys and Girls. I defintely don't want to see two guys physically brawling over Pam, so no, I didn't want Jim to pick a fight with Roy at that moment. It was just a shame to see Jim spill the beans on his alliance with Dwight so effortlessly. I keep picturing him backing up behind reception, all nervous not knowing what to do with his hands and blubbering...that moment surely solidified my dislike of Roy.

Loaded T- I had to laugh at your attempted instigation while quoting our beloved Jim Halpert. As Kevin would say.... "Niiiiiiiiiiiiiice."

Just an FYI....the moment I decided that I would never, ever like Roy is when he grabbed Pam's arm in the parking lot of the Chilis in the Dundies episode. Grrrrrr....

Jun 8th 2006

Ok...one more comment (I swear, this site is addicting...but there's work to be done!)

I hate that Jim doesn't seem to have the guts to stick up for himself when Roy's around whether it's in The Alliance or Boys and Girls.

I get what you're saying, ILB, but I don't think it's a matter of Jim not having the guts. I think that morally part of him feels he really shouldn't be in love with someone's fiancee. No matter what type of guy Roy is. So there is a line that he dances up to (flirting, having as much contact as possible with Pam, etc.) and pulls back from (seeing Katy, considering the transfer...) The ball has always really been in Pam's court. Which really sucks, because she seems happy to keep things as they are, really "having" both guys. I think he feels like getting in Roy's face would serve no purpose, and might drive a wedge between himself & Pam.

Jun 8th 2006

I don't have The Alliance recorded anywhere so I can't go back and re-watch the Roy/Jim scene, but as I remember it Jim was so surprised by Roy's reaction that all he could do for a minute was stammer and think of a response. And of course you can't get into a physical confrontation at work, you'd be fired immediately.

The one time his laid-back, non-confrontational style really bothered me was when Dwight stole his sale in Diversity Day and he didn't do anything about it. I'm pretty laid-back myself, but if someone did that to me I would of went crazy on him (verbally) and I would have done it in front of as many co-workers as possible so they were aware of the low-down manuever Dwight pulled.

Jun 8th 2006

Hey Jenna Loves Josh - I totally agree with your last paragraph. Where does Dwight get off stealing one of Jim's clients, one that accounts for 25% of Jim's commissions a year. And Jim just let him do it and didn't say a word. In fact, Jim gave Dwight the small bottle of champagne. What was Jim thinking???? Was he so entralled with Pam falling asleep on his shoulder that he could think of nothing else?

Jun 8th 2006

Was he so entralled with Pam falling asleep on his shoulder that he could think of nothing else?

Yeah, I think that's exactly it. I think Jim was initially pissed, but before he could retaliate (not saying he would), Pam fell asleep on his shoulder and that was enough for him. THAT made his day unlike any potential commission check ever could or would.

I'm guessing the show really wanted to make that point with the scene.

I am torn a bit because my allegiance is to Jim Halpert, but I like Dwight too, and if I remember correctly, Jim started it. So, catch-22.

Jun 8th 2006

The whole Dwight stealing Jim's sale thing is a little more understandable when you see the deleted scenes from that episode on the DVD. Basically Jim puts a card on Dwight's head that says "Dwight" while everyone is in that diversity seminar.

Jun 8th 2006

Thirsty Babes & Dump Roy,

Pam falling asleep on his shoulder happened at the end of the day and the end of the episode and Dwight stole his sale in the middle of the day/episode. So I think in this instance he was just a wuss. Still like him though.

Jun 8th 2006

Jim finds out that Dwight stole the sale at the end of the day, puts the bottle on his desk, walks into the conference room, Pam falls asleep on his shoulder.

I don't really think it's odd for Jim to back down so often simply because he is... well, wuss. He isn't Mr. Backbone. If he was, he would've gotten Pam a long, long time ago (he's nursed his crush for three or so years?), and we would have nothing to watch today. He's a good guy, but his entire character arc is based on the fact that he won't fight for anything (with few exceptions). He doesn't stand up to Roy because he's not that kind of guy. The only time he's a little aggressive is in "Basketball," and he doesn't really even stand up to Roy then when he's called on it.

I don't think Jim's the kind of guy who would get super-pissed about a missed sale. That would mean that he'd actually have to fight for an aspect of his job, which he doesn't often rush to do. (One of the things Jim seems most happy about is the fact he doesn't even have to try to get the sale. The champagne bottle was kind of conceding defeat to Dwight, who probably did work for the sale. Even gave them a discount.) Yeah, I know it's also a heavier paycheck for Jim, but we all know that's not why he works there. Anyway...

I do definitely believe that Jim got Dwight back, though. After all, he's got plenty of nickles...

Jun 8th 2006 edited

In Diversity Day, Jim tries to get the order with that client the entire day but he keeps gettiung interrupted. This sale he anticipates every year. We are aware of how important that sale is to him (25% of his pay for the year, maybe up to $15,000 I'm guessing).

When Pam falls asleep on his shoulder, you can see the bliss on his face. Later he tells the camera crew, "not a bad day."

It sure would have been my worse day of the year. Similar to Dump Roy's comment, I take that scene as really showing how much Pam means to him.

Jun 8th 2006

I don't really think it's odd for Jim to back down so often simply because he is... well, wuss.

Sorry, but no one calls my man Jim a wuss. Let's head outside, UR.

But seriously, I don't see him that way at all. Michael's a wuss. (Basketball, with the warehouse guys, and a hundred other examples.) Jim is easygoing, and non-confrontational, but he (ok...finally...) had the courage to tell Pam how he feels, and after being rejected went for the kiss. He sometimes lets his frustrations out (scissors + fitness orb, talking to Pam about her "choices")...I just don't see him as a wuss. A little aimless, undriven and in love with an unavailable woman; yeah.

Jun 8th 2006

Yeah. WE aren't wusses! We just dont go out of our way to start a problem.

Jun 8th 2006

When I was talking about Jim being unpopular in high school, I was really talking about me ;-p

I'm not saying he was picked on every day or anything, but Jim was kind of in the middle of the high school social structure, I'm willing to bet. He had friends in all other groups, didn't treat anyone horribly, but was probably pushed around a time or two (enough to justify the lack of action he takes with the things that matter most in his life, like Pam). He may very well have been on the basketball team, but that doesn't necessarily guarentee "cool".

Wait, I think I'm talking about me again, instead of Jim...

Jun 16th 2006

I wasn't the only one at the chat from here, was I? Other than tanster, of course, who I saw in there.

John actually answered one of my questions and sort of answered another one through another poster in the chat room. I wasn't able to save my question but here's the second one answered <sort of>.

My original question:

Me: If you had to choose one of the three, who would you rather play: Superman, Spiderman, or Batman?

Then this:

Other Poster Later: SheIsTheSunlight: John, to break up your typical Office-related questions a bit, let me ask... If you could be a superhero, what would your a) super power be and b) your superhero name be? (just to throw that out there again.)

John: My superpower would be...hmm that's a tough one. i just dont think there's anything better than flying. i also would like to move coat racks with my mind.

Jun 16th 2006

I was there, too. But I was just reading as the questions were asked and answered.

Jun 16th 2006

2' Closer To Copier - wasn't it insane?

Jun 16th 2006

Yeah, it was crazy. People kept putting up questions, really fast, and others would jump in trying to stop them. When they first were talking about an order, I was thinking, "What are we in elementary school?" But maybe it would have been a good idea to have a plan before hand. I thought Rebecca(?) did a great job trying to keep up, though.

Jun 16th 2006

I've got a transcript of the chat here.

Enjoy! :)

Jun 16th 2006

Thank you very much Tanster for taking the time to provide a transcript from the chat. I really enjoyed reading it. I swear, I'm so proud to be a fan of such an awesome show and cast. JK and everyone else affiliated with The Office seems so grateful for all the support and that is really nice to hear.

Great job - it looks like you all had a great time.

Jun 16th 2006

ilovebeets, you are most welcome.

John was a sweetheart and very gracious. It was great hearing him talk about THE SCENE in Casino Night!

Jun 16th 2006

It was great hearing him talk about THE SCENE in Casino Night!

tanster I totally agree! Very cool to hear how they "cleared their heads" and just went for it. Awesome scene written & acted.

I also liked his answer to your question re: the sites.

Jul 13th 2006

Okay, we covered his facial expressions. But no one mentioned his hand gestures. They are very very entertaining to watch. Take for instance "The Fight". The part in which he says, "Just have Dwight punch you." note that his hands and pencil kind of dances in mid-air. In the same episode, when he steals Dwight's purple belt, his fingers do a spidery Mr. Burns (as mentioned in one of Jenna's blogs). Here are more examples:

  • Performance Review- while he's having (what I made out to be) a cup of yogurt, he swishes his plastic spoon around
  • Casino Night- when he's "moving" the coat rack
  • The Fire- "I think I'm gonna be setting the agenda around here."
  • Halloween- when Dwight asks, "What's that? What are you supposed to be?" Jim holds up a mini candy bar

It's just tiny things he does that puts a smile on my face. Like when his shoulders shrug up when Kelly talks about her dress (Drug Testing), or his funny little run when he goes to reception to tell Pam about Dwight's disguise (The Alliance). John Krasinski is the most interesting to watch in every episode.

Do I sound like a fangirl yet?

Jul 18th 2006

Ok, I love Jim as much as anybody. He's completely adorable and sweet. The only thing about him is, remember in Christmas Party, he was putting those sauce packets that Pam used "a couple of years ago." Well, that's a little creepy. Jim is sweet and good and wonderful. But that one aspect is a little stalker-ish. Does anyone else think so?

Jul 18th 2006

Jim is sweet and good and wonderful. But that one aspect is a little stalker-ish. Does anyone else think so?

Yep. I can see what you mean...but haven't we all done some slightly creepy things regarding objects of our affection? I think in 8th grade I Xeroxed my crush's picture from the yearbook and made my best friend take a bike ride with me so we could "randomly" pedal by his house...which was miles away and, literally, in the middle of nowhere. I wasn't a middle-school stalker ;-)

I think the hot sauce thing was just supposed to be a subtle indicator of exactly how long Jim has been harboring this crush on Pam. I definitely see him as adorable and sweet, too...I hope Season 3 doesn't take a turn for the macabre and make Jim into a Collector-ish character. Eww....:-)

Jul 18th 2006

Welcome back, LT. I noticed you were away a while...

But that one aspect is a little stalker-ish

I don't really think so. The items were small, easy to toss in a drawer. He could have looked at them every now and then, wondered "should I toss these?", but the memory they conjure is nice, so he kept 'em. I do that all the time with little momentos. No alarm bells with me, just another example of a sentimental Jim. Unlike Ryan and his medal.

Jul 18th 2006

Continuing along those lines, what do you suppose Pam did with the items in the teapot? Especially the yearbook picture. I'd like to think she kept them for a while, but where? A secret place at work? A secret place at home?

Unlike Ryan and his medal.

I always thought this was a total dick move. You don't have to wear them on your neck, but don't throw them away. Keep them in one of your desk drawers at least.

Jul 18th 2006

what do you suppose Pam did with the items in the teapot?

She still has 'em. I'd bet my next paycheck. At work, in her desk. Go look. :)

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