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Jim Halpert : I could work here for years
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Sep 27th 2006

Yes, I too pay close attention to Michael's lips in Prison Break. But not because I can't tell what he's saying. I mean really, does it matter what he's saying?

Point well-understood. And applauded.

Sep 28th 2006

Great.. now when I was watching GWH again I noticed that when john/jim said 'tuna sandwich' he didn't pronounce the nd in sandwich. Tuna Sa-wich.

Sep 28th 2006

I don't think I ever pronounce the D in sandwich. It's more like san-wich.

Sep 28th 2006

I think the only person who might pronounce it "sanDwich" is Tim Gunn: master enunciator and lord of Parsons.

Sep 28th 2006 edited

Yeah. I figured this was a common thing, but GT has me now paying attention to how everyone says all of their words. I hope I don't get OC about it. It's probably a good thing though because I will be more conscious about what I am saying out loud.

Sep 28th 2006

PP B: sorry for the added stress. If we ever meet I promise not to listen for slipped consonants. And just use the new "hobby" for an excuse to others for replaying certain scenes over & over. ("Yeah, right before the kiss, I think Jim did it again! Let's rewind and see. Nope, didn't catch it, I'll try again...")

Sep 28th 2006

No problem, GT. But if I see you with a video camera, I'm running in the other direction. ;)

Oct 4th 2006

I made a ham (well, honey turkey) and cheese sandwich today.

It was alright.

Oct 21st 2006

I was on TNT channel and they had a commercial/promotion for Without A Trace, where they play shots from various episodes, and have some music in the background. All the shots were very quick but I am 100% sure one shot was right on John's face looking at the camera. :) Indeed according to IMDB, he was on 1 episode of Without A Trace.

...It was a nice little surprise... ;)

Nov 7th 2006 edited

Diwali deleted scene 2 spoiler alert

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I am unreasonably happy that Jim & I share sushi preferences. Unagi! Eel is the best. But it's sort of the whitebread of sushi, because it's cooked. Like his mundane sandwich choices, Jim plays it safe with sushi.

Nov 7th 2006

Re: same deleted scene

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I was amused that, by process of elimination, Karen ordered the tuna. I wonder if her decision was some sort of private "I want tuna" joke with herself.

Nov 7th 2006

No... tuna is just the best tasting of the sushis. It's maybe a joke between the writers and audience, but not with her. You don't mess around with your sashimi favorites if someone else is paying.

Nov 7th 2006

Some of the talk on the speculation thread made me want to pose a question.

What do you think Jim's state of mind has been in the 5 to 7 months that have passed since Casino Night? I'll read some fan fiction every once in a while, and a lot of stories portray him as angst-ridden, deeply depressed, getting drunk and crying himself to sleep every night. I disagree and think he's stronger than that. There was probably a period of mild depression, and I think he was (and maybe still is) also a little angry and upset with Pam because he knows that deep down she feels strongly about him as well. But I also think that even though he didn't get the result he desired, he's glad he finally did something, and that gives him some peace, and he's been able to move on for the most part.

Thoughts?

Nov 7th 2006 edited

I disagree and think he's stronger than that.

I don't know, JLJ. The longer this show goes on the more paradoxical Jim becomes. He's the cool guy in Scranton, and deeply clever (all the pranks), yet he's spectacularly naive in Stamford (Karen: "Nice basket." Jim: "Thanks!!"...totally oblivious to the sarcasm...) I acknowledge that someone else brought that up first, by the way.

I think he IS a truly sensitive guy. Not only with Pam (convincing Michael to change her Dundie award) but with others as well. Remember when he was under the Jinx spell, and Meredith said something about "them" taking her kid away? (That may have been in a deleted scene...) Anyway, he looks truly horrified that he could possibly make someone feel that way.

I think its possible that Jim has been having a terrible time since moving to Stamford (he alludes to having no social life during "The Call"), but I'll concede that it is also entirely possible that he's doing okay.

Nov 7th 2006

Jenna Loves Josh, I'm with you on this one. Jim has been portrayed as being nostalgic from time to time about the Scranton office/Pam, but I don't think of him as depressed at all. He seems to have made peace with what happened and even if he's not completely over the way he feels about Pam, he knows he needs to move on and he's been doing a fine job with that, if you ask me. I can't wait for the merger, but it has been nice to see a fairly happy Jim instead of just a long-suffering Jim. His looks at the camera are sometimes completely different than before. I think John Krasinski has done a great job with getting that difference across.

I think the uncertainty caused a lot of angst for him before; hence, the facial expressions he couldn't hide - but he had to face and accept her answer to walk away from that with dignity. And he did. Jim definitely wears his heart on his sleeve and even though he may still be hurt and wish things had gone differently, his face is now able to tell us that he's going to be alright. That is all.

Nov 7th 2006

He's the cool guy in Scranton, and deeply clever (all the pranks), yet he's spectacularly naive in Stamford (Karen: "Nice basket." Jim: "Thanks!!"...totally oblivious to the sarcasm...)

Huh, I didn't see it that way at all. This may be a strange way to say this, but I feel like he was just pretending to be "oblivious to the sarcasm." Does that make sense to anyone else here?

Nov 7th 2006

Agreed, JLJ and Kristen. I can say from personal experience when you face something like Jim did, it's completely possible to go on and be relatively happy with your life, especially if you move to a new place with new people. I'm sure he thinks about it at times and feels regretful or nostalgic, but like you all have said, he's made peace with it. On the other hand, it's things like The Call that suck you back in and make you realize that you may not be all that far down the road to recovery that you thought.

Nov 7th 2006

I"m with you, Kristen. Jim's pretty perceptive. I think he knew just what the basket comment was (playful sarcasm) and played along. He and Pam did that all the time.

Nov 7th 2006

Cool!

This is the first time something I posted was hotly debunked! Now I'm going to have to go back and analyze that moment again...

(I can't help myself..."hotly debunked"...TWSS.)

Nov 7th 2006

One can be profoundly disappointed and even pit-in-the-stomach sick for a while about a break up or missed chance without becoming depressed or having a character change. Five to seven months is a long time to recover, too. I'm sure he's fine. Sorry, perhaps, but I hardly think he's moping when he gets home or has alone time. "Road to recovery" seems like an overstatement to me. Jim's too level-headed to be derailed by being rejected by Pam. PLUS he had to know it was a long shot in the first place. She was engaged!

I think, too, that he is playing it straight to Karen's jokes. To use this bicycle basket example, it's obvious he knows what a "real" cyclist's bike and outfit look like and it's obvious he matches neither. He is cool and doesn't care--a bike is a bike--but he isn't clueless. And if "nice basket" comments are as sarcastic as Karen gets, I'd hardly call her sarcastic. She was teasing him, and the bike was funny, and they both know it.

Nov 7th 2006

I'm debunking you too whatevs. I think Jim was being sarcastic in his own way by playing straight man to Karen's joke. However, I don't know if Karen picked up on that, whereas Pam would have picked up on it right away. Further proof they are perfect for each other and meant to be and all that.

Nov 7th 2006

Jim's too level-headed to be derailed by being rejected by Pam. PLUS he had to know it was a long shot in the first place. She was engaged!

Sorry, but I have to jump in here (what a pot-stirrer I am!). I think it's not giving enough credit to the feelings he expressed to her to say that he wasn't derailed by it at ALL. Now, maybe we're talking on different levels here - I'm not saying he contemplated suicide or that now, five months along, he goes home and listens to sappy music while sobbing into his whisky jug. ;) I'm just saying that, if he really and truly did LOVE Pam (as much as he said he did), it wouldn't have just been an "Ah, well" thing.

I agree that he must have known it was a long shot, but he must have built up enough hope to give it a try (and he must have clung to SOME hope over the years, even if he didn't admit it to himself), and it would still be a crushing disappointment (hence the single tear...aww). He was pretty desperate.

In short (too late!)...I'm not saying Jim is unstable, I'm just saying that I think his feelings for Pam are worth some major suffering. AND that a spike in those sick, pit-of-stomach, terribly empty feelings could be caused by that accidental phone call. :) Right, or am I nuts?

Nov 7th 2006

No, Emmyjean, you're right. I agree. I'd also like to know where I can get a whiskey jug.

sick, pit-of-stomach, terribly empty feelings

Perfect description. That's how I imagine Jim feeling after his talk with Pam over the phone.

Nov 7th 2006

I was so, so disappointed with the phone call's end. He didn't let her explain b/c he was so used to rejection, I think. I want a moment where Pam looks up and Jim is walking back into the office. I want that moment!!! (Did anyone else realize during this last episode that it would totally not be gross to hug a sweaty Jim??:)

Nov 7th 2006

I agree that he must have known it was a long shot, but he must have built up enough hope to give it a try (and he must have clung to SOME hope over the years, even if he didn't admit it to himself), and it would still be a crushing disappointment (hence the single tear...aww). He was pretty desperate.

Agreed! Agreed! I think that at times, Jim had convinced himself that Pam felt the same way about him as he did about her.

An example is the scene in Halloween when Pam tells Jim that he should go for the job at Cumberland Mills. Jim cannot believe that Pam would even suggest he leave Scranton. Then when he comes to the realization that she was serious, he is just crushed.

Nov 7th 2006

I'd also like to know where I can get a whiskey jug.

I wish I knew...;)

I'm so excited I'm getting the hang of this Markdown stuff! I love this community! Seriously, though...

Did anyone else realize during this last episode that it would totally not be gross to hug a sweaty Jim??

Depends on how well he applied his deodorant...;)

Nov 7th 2006

I was just thinking. I'm going to have to seriously suspend disbelief next week if Jim, after eatin Eel for dinner and then doing enough shots to crash his bike during a 4-foot joyride, doesn't puke all over karen's back seat. What a revolting combo.

Oh and as for feelings, people are complex. They aren't always over the things that they're over even when they're totally over them. A little jog of the memory, a scent, a glimpse and you're toast. It happens.

And lastly, yes, monkey, sweaty Jim? Seriously?

Nov 7th 2006

I think it's the pit stains that makes it so bad. Solution: Jim takes off his shirt prior to the hugging.

Nov 7th 2006

What a revolting combo.

Karen & Jim? I totally agree.

As for eel...c'mon now...tasty stuff.

Nov 8th 2006

Solution: Jim takes off his shirt prior to the hugging.

Agreed.

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