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Jim Halpert : I could work here for years
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Dec 15th 2006 edited

DwightfromtheFuture, I think you should turn The Unifying Theory of Halpert into a book only because I would REALLY like to hear more of the Jim Halpert story.

I just have so many unanswered questions like does he have any siblings? What was his favorite subject in school? What was his longest relationship and what was it like? What does he do when he's not at work? What would he be doing if he wasn't working at Dunder Mifflin? Also do you think he has glasses but wears contacts? (the right answer to that is yes, he does have glasses and he wears them at home and he looks really dreamy with them on).

If you could get on that and have it to me by noon, I'd really appreciate it ...you're on a strict deadline here.

Dec 16th 2006

When was it that Jim said to Michael "Really? Cause you just said...." right after Michael contradicted himself? Might have been Dwight too.

I've been trying to remember what scene this was and I can't.

Dec 16th 2006 edited

FAA, I think you're thinking of the Prison Mike scene. Michael said he went to prison then said he never got caught.

Edited: Darn! I knew I should have watched that scene BEFORE I posted that...

Dec 16th 2006

It's not that one but the delivery is very similar. It could also possibly be a S2 deleted scene. Pam could have said it come to think of it. Or maybe what I'm thinking of never happened. It's like when you can't remember if you dreamed something or if it happened in real life. And you wanna ask the person but you're just getting to know them and you don't wanna seem weird telling them you had a dream about them.

Dec 16th 2006 edited

When was it that Jim said to Michael "Really? Cause you just said...." right after Michael contradicted himself?

In email surveillance:

Michael: Almost quitting time.
Jim: Yup. It's, uh, 4:00.
Michael: One more hour to take care of anything you forgot to do. Hey, you know, I don't know if you have any plans tonight, but if you don't, we could hang out.
Jim: Oh, um...I can't.
Michael: You have plans?
Jim: Mm-hmm. Yeah, I do.
Michael: Yeah, I do too, I do too.
Jim: Oh, you do?
Michael: Big plans. I do, yeah.
Jim: Because you just said you wanted to hang out

Dec 16th 2006

lol thats it thx guys

Dec 18th 2006

I was going to post this in the Karim thread, but I couldn't find it and this works, too. ;)

Anyone think it would be interesting if Jim spent a good part of the season knowing that Karen isn't for him (which he kind of hinted at starting to realize in Benihana Christmas) and wanting to just end things with her, only to have circumstance keep him from doing so?

I mean, like...if Karen were to suddenly get serious, or his sense of responsibility to her was overwhelming (being the only real person she's got in Scranton right now), or if he just keeps thinking he's dug himself in too deep to get out.

Maybe he'd get a glimmer of understanding at how hard it was for Pam to break the surface and finally end it with Roy after TEN years. Talk about thoughts of 'too late to go back now'! Would this be interesting or boring? :)

Dec 18th 2006

It would be very interesting, Emmyjean. Jim stays with Karen because it's (a lot) better than nothing, it's a way to shield himself against Pam, and because he won't admit to himself how strong his feelings still are for Pam. That could cause a lot of viewers to become upset with him because he would be seen as stringing Karen along, but I wouldn't mind seeing that, I don't think he's as heroic as many others do.

I thought the way Jim was portrayed in this episode was very interesting. Meaning more the way he was written, Krasinski's portrayal was as consistent as ever. His scenes throughout the episode were meant to show that he is still extremely uncomfortable. With being back in Scranton, with being the new #2, and obviously with being around Pam. Both at Benihana's and back at the office during the party he seemed somewhat detached and not as much of a participant as he was in the past. This really hit me as I was watching the episode initially, but upon rewatching I did soften my stance a little (he had some great Jim faces when they first got to Benihana) but still noticed it. The writers have a challenge ahead of them in striking a balance between Responsible Jim and Fun Jim.

Having said that, I think there was a little loss of continuity in how Jim was written. His attitudes in The Merger and Benihana Christmas were very similar - detached, uncomfortable, more of an observer. Whereas in The Convict he seemed happier and more outgoing, especially in the Prison Mike scene. I wondered how the continuity of the show would work with Gervias & Merchant guest writing, and I think this is an instance where it didn't work very well.

Dec 18th 2006

Hmm...yeah, I see what you mean! Like maybe it would have made more sense, speaking in terms of the continuity of Jim's character, if The Convict had come after A Benihana Christmas.

Although maybe that's the point, to have him bouncing around all over the place. I almost hate talking about all this stuff because I can't judge until we get the complete season. :)

Dec 18th 2006

I almost hate talking about all this stuff because I can't judge until we get the complete season. :)

Another good point, I think there will be a greater appreciation for S3 when it is able to be viewed in its' entirety.

Dec 18th 2006

I would prefer to see Jim having to deal with breaking it off with Karen, at some point, to say some circumstance where Karen has to leave or resolves the situation because she is enlightened to the Jim/Pam situation. It just seems more exciting.

I agree, just because Jim realizes that Karen doesn't yet mean what Pam does to him, doesn't mean he is going to be ready to end the relationship anytime soon. There are still plenty of reason for that relationship to continue, except for the fact that I am not patient!

Dec 20th 2006

Someone in another thread said that Jim's attitude is a huge factor in the overall feeling we get from watching Season 3, and I wanted to take that thought and run with it here (feel free to take credit for the thought, whoever it was...I can't go back and look just now). :)

The guy is listless and, if I were his friend, I'd worry that he was really depressed. He's phoning it in, which he always kind of was at work but now it's everything. I mean, if you'll all allow me to complain harshly about our boy for a moment - WHY the heck is he just sitting there at a Christmas party making faces?? Even ROY, who also has plenty of reason to be depressed, took Phyllis for an enthusiastic spin on the floor. He didn't drink at lunch with the other guys (whatever, fine...I can see that), he doesn't do karaoke, he doesn't seem to be enjoying anything anymore.

Geez louise. If I were Karen, I'd be thinking this dude is a dud and be on my way. He's DEFINITELY not enjoying her, and they're supposed to be in the throes of that new relationship bliss. Jim, JIM...snap out of it! ;)

Dec 20th 2006

I was actually thinking the same thing. He seems blue like his shirts. Just kind of depressed. Probably not seriously, but like he's gotten a chill in his bones that he just can't shake. (He needs Pam's red sweater to warm him up!)

Dec 20th 2006

Pan, your use of color to demonstrate your point is stunning. I like it. :)

I don't know...I just feel like he's aimless. People (including Jim himself) keep making a point of saying he's trying to take a new direction with his life and move on, but I don't see any direction at all. It's like he has no idea what he's doing or where he's going.

It's like he's a guy who knows what it'll take to make him happy but thinks he can't have it, so he's just not trying very hard with anything else. Except for sticking to bottled water. At least he made that change...good job, Jim. Way to drink that water. ;)

Dec 20th 2006

Hey, water is good for you. Most people don't get nearly enough. It increases wakefulness, improves skin tone, is good for your kidneys and digestive system, and prevents headaches. Maybe if he drank even more water, he'd be fine.

Dec 20th 2006

At this point he'd have to drink the entire Scranton Business Park dry to improve his mood. And he can't afford to take that many bathroom breaks now that he's number two.

Dec 20th 2006

It was me who made the point in the other thread. I don't have much to add, Emmyjean summed it up pretty well, but where's the guy who organized the Office Olympics? Or had a party for the office at his house on a Friday night? Or organized the Michael Scarn script reading? I know things didn't work out quite like he planned, but he got a huge promotion and I'm assuming a big raise, picked up a good looking girlfriend, and now his dream girl is showing all kinds of interest in him. So if I'm supposed to be feeling bad for him, it's not happening.

He seems blue like his shirts. Just kind of depressed.

I remarked a couple episodes ago about him wearing the same light blue shirt all the time. I was just saying it to try and be funny, but now I'm wondering if there is some symbolism on the writers' part. I wouldn't put it past them, they're pretty clever like that.

Dec 20th 2006

I bet it's purposeful. I hadn't put it together until now, but....well-timed change.

Dec 20th 2006

Well, they DID hang the blue balls on his desk on purpose...I wouldn't put it past them.

Yeah, seriously...he's moping for sure. He's supposed to be in a leadership role now and he's taking even LESS leadership and initiative than he was when he was just a salesman.

He got burned pretty bad...fine. But come on. Either get over it or else try, try again (as they say...if at first you don't succeed...and circumstances have changed considerably since the last time he tried with Pam). :)

Dec 20th 2006

He got burned pretty bad...fine. But come on. Either get over it or else try, try again (as they say...if at first you don't succeed...

Pam could take a little of this advice, too, don't you think, Emmyjean? ;-) She didn't even get burned like Jim did. And especially that last part: if at first you don't succeed...if she wants Jim, she should TELL him, regardless of how she wasn't able to before.

I'm not going to fault Jim for being reserved and cautious, when so many other people have made excuses for Pam for doing the exact same thing. She didn't even put her heart out there to get crushed like Jim did, so to me, his withdrawal is even more understandable than hers.

Poor Jim. Maybe he needs to be drinking something stronger than water, anyway. Meredith, can you spare a cup or two?

Dec 20th 2006 edited

Uh-oh, LT...I saw it coming! ;)

I actually think Pam has been more optimistic this season. I'm mainly talking about Jim's depression over Pam affecting the way he treats (or reacts to) everyone else. Pam is sad about how things are going with Jim, but she's still the same old Pam. Still sweet to Michael despite his idiocy, still sweet to Toby, even sweet to Roy. EVEN to Karen, who she could easily stay away from because it MUST cost her something to be her friend.

I don't think Pam is mopey at all, actually. I think she IS making the best of things.

Oh, and PS - that's why I think he really should have considered drinking those Nog-a-sakes. Or at LEAST a margarita at the 'way more fun' party. :)

Dec 20th 2006 edited

You're right, Emmyjean - she is not as mopey as Jim. But she's not as sweet as she used to be, I don't think. I'm thiking specifically about her calling Carol a slutty cheerleader. That was very un-Pammish. And we still catch a lot of her forlorn glances at the camera or at Jim and Karen, so she's not completely moved on. And I don't blame her for that. But if she's handling it better than Jim, maybe it's because she wasn't blatantly rejected by anyone. She had TWO guys who wanted to be with her. Jim was shot down twice.

You don't really think Jim should try again, do you? I mean, Pam has done very little to that end. I truly think the ball is still in her court, and will be for some time. She needs to risk like Jim did (and I don't mean by calling off her wedding - I mean by being up-front with Jim about her feelings). True, Jim is not as fun or as prankish and is pretty un-Jim lately, but that seems totally realistic to me. He's been through a lot.

P.S. Is a Nog-a-sake a real drink? It sounds like it could be real. It made me laugh when they said it, regardless. And Jim needs a swig.

Dec 20th 2006

I agree that the ball is still in Pam's court, to be fair. And I do hope she gets her butt in gear and gets in the game.

I think she's doing a good job of being optimistic without getting over it. And I just hope she hits "enough is enough" and drags him into the supply closet for the hippity dippity soon. Personal growth included, I think there's a time in a woman's life when she needs to just DO it.

I buy her path thus far, but if she doesn't step up to the plate this season I'll be....more than disappointed in her. She hadn't been that kind of woman before, but that's exactly the kind of woman she's trying to become, and I want to see her go for it.

As for Jim, it's taken a few episodes in Scranton for me to see him as kind of depressed and bummed. He might not be showing outright and constantly his Pining for Pam, but the weight of it is much more obvious when he has to actually see her.

His poor grief bone has been through a lot.

Dec 20th 2006

LT, how can you forgive Jim for making Toby feel stupid in the Merger but you still hold a grudge against Pam for her 'slutty cheerleader' comment - which she didn't say to the lady's face, and she even felt bad about it a split second after she said it!? Oy! ;)

I'd kind of rather not get into the discussion about Pam's woes vs. Jim's woes in this thread...not that I don't love debating with you (my posting history will show that I do), but I just feel like we hijack every thread with that same argument. If we're not careful, people are going to start figuratively hiding our desks in the bathroom (haha). ;)

PS - I have no idea, but if it is I kind of want some. And yes, Jim does need a swig...maybe we can even skip the one part eggnog and just give him straight sake. ;) If he'd just get hammered again, maybe something would actually happen with him and Pam! ;)

Dec 20th 2006

Okay, sorry for the double post, but Pan??? Hippity dippity? HAHA!

I do think it's Pam's turn. I just think Jim is kind of starting to be at least partially responsible again for standing in the way of his own happiness based on how he's acting. If he knows Pam as well as he says, shouldn't he see that she's trying...something?

I'm really asking, here. I want the opinions. :) I'll be over at the nog-a-sake bowl if anyone cares to share.

Dec 20th 2006

I wonder if cheerleaders picked on artsy Pam in high school. She wasn't a big fan of Katy's cheerleading past in the Booze Cruise ep, either!

The comment never bothered me that much. She did realize it was mean right after she said it, after all.

Dec 20th 2006

I think he sees it and part of him is too scared to believe it. Another part of him wants her to suffer a little. Another part of him wants to prove he can be happy with Karen, so HA on you. But the biggest part is the scared part.

Dec 20th 2006 edited

Pour me a cup (shaker, whatever it is) of sake, Emmyjean. I think Jim's reaction to Toby's fist thing was cold and weird, and I don't know what to make of it. I'm not saying I think it was OK. But, like my gramma says, two wrongs don't make a right.

We're all responsible for our own happiness. Jim does need to pull it together. If I met Today's Jim, I wouldn't be attracted to him (the fact that he's physically attractive aside, I mean ;-). I just am not attracted to people who seem to watch their lives drift by, as if they're helpless to change things - they're the only people who can change things! Right now Jim is wallowing in a job he hates, with a woman he kinda likes, and is pretty aimless in that regard. But I think he's tried to move on. And you obviously admire Pam for trying to pull her life together after Casino Night, so why can't you admire Jim for the same thing?

If he knows Pam as well as he says, shouldn't he see that she's trying...something?

You know how easily this could be turned around, don't you? ;-) Especially last season? "Jim is my best friend...but gosh darn it, I really don't see that he's in love with me." Yup. Sure. Even now...if they're each other's "best friends," they should sense something is rotten in Denmark.

Sake bowl, here I come!

Hippity dippity indeed!

Ps - I definitely don't forgive Pam for her cheerleader remark. From what we saw, Pam had virtually no interaction with Carol at all, and Carol was just nice and sweet and unassuming. So why would a remark like that even enter Pam's head? Especially give that Carol was with Michael - can't they all just assume that misunderstandings and chaos will ensue? If Pam's been wronged by a cheerleader in the past, she just needs some Freudian therapy so she can move on...But I think the remark was intentional, anyway, so we could see a little bit of how Pam is changing, how she's less of a doormat and less sweet, has a bit more of an edge than before.

Dec 20th 2006

For the record, it's hibbity dibbity, and I hold the copyright, so I'll be expecting royalty checks in the mail before New Year's please.

Is there anything more offensive than walking into a Japanese restaurant and ordering a drink named for Japanese city that was nuked? Yes, there is one thing more offensive: drinking something consisting primarily of raw egg yolks, heavy cream and hard liquor.

I know things didn't work out quite like he planned, but he got a huge promotion and I'm assuming a big raise, picked up a good looking girlfriend, and now his dream girl is showing all kinds of interest in him. So if I'm supposed to be feeling bad for him, it's not happening.

Well put, JLJ. Of course the ball's in Pam's court now, but what is she supposed to do? She burned him twice and now he's dating someone in the very same office. I supposed she could bare her soul to Jim a) risking rejection, and b) creating a shitstorm of an intra-office conflict. That isn't something the new or old Pam would do.

By the way, screw Toby. He isn't sweet and sad. He's a creepy freak. Lighten up, man. Instead of feeling up Kevin in the breakroom, go get your own robe back. Who under 70 wears bathrobes anyway, especially ones with our corporate logo on them?

Dec 20th 2006

I just don't buy the idea that Jim put it on the line once, got shot down, and is now totally exempt from making any effort or showing any encouragement whatsoever. I think it's a stupid move to give up completely on something you so obviously want, something that, if you had it, would pretty much make everything else in your life 100% better.

I agree that probably the main reason he's rebuffing Pam's efforts is because he's scared to fall back in love with her again, but what's the point when he's already in love with her anyway? Also, I just really think that it can't be the same old thing because a MAJOR factor in their interaction pre-Casino Night was the fact that she was promised to someone else...who is no longer in the picture. By that fact alone, it would be different.

She chose to ignore Jim's fairly obvious expressions of adoration because she was engaged. I don't think she was blind...I just think she was engaged. I think she didn't ever expect him to say it out loud, because every time he went there in the past she scooted away from him. She was trying to be faithful to her fiance for better or worse. Maybe she didn't know the depth of Jim's feelings until he actually blurted out the 'L' word. Not that it was the right course of action...but at least she was truly being held back by something other than her own fear. Go ahead, LT...your turn! ;)

slurp It IS a good drink...

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