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Like, gas ain't free! : Gripes
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Feb 20th 2006 edited

This thread is reserved for gripes about the show. No show is perfect. Voice your discontent here.

Feb 20th 2006

The one gripe I have so far is actually probably a compliment to the writers: Pam is getting on my nerves. By that I mean that if, in real life, I knew someone who was bright and attractive but was, inexplicably, resigned to spending time at an unfulfilling job and marrying a doof (especially if a potentially fabulous career AND the love of her life were both right under her nose), I'd be hard-pressed to hold my opinions to myself (I do understand that she has her reasons for holding on to what she has: security, routine, stability, knowing what will happen the next day, etc). And yet, people like Pam are very true-to-life...which is exactly what makes her situation so frustrating. That, and I may have been Pam in another life, I think, and you know that the people in life who most get under your skin are the people who are JUST like you.

So that's my gripe. STOP MAKING CHARACTERS THAT ARE SO REALISTIC THAT I WANT TO SLAP THEM INTO SEEING THINGS THE WAY THEY SHOULD BE SEEING THEM. Does that make sense? Not a bad complaint, I guess ;-)

Feb 20th 2006 edited

So that's my gripe. STOP MAKING CHARACTERS THAT ARE SO REALISTIC THAT I WANT TO SLAP THEM INTO SEEING THINGS THE WAY THEY SHOULD BE SEEING THEM. Does that make sense? Not a bad complaint, I guess ;-)

That's what makes this show so awesome. The character development is so real. I agree, it's heartbreaking to watch Pam (especially recently). Her self-esteem and sense of self-worth is so low. The girl needs to get some courage and "take a chance on something!"

The Jim & Pam love story is very slow moving allowing us to see all of those precious subtle interactions between one another. This is why I find the clever writing and dialogue so much more refreshing than other shows (Desperate Housewives).

Feb 20th 2006

It's a minor thing, but I'd like to see a little more development of Dwight as a real person, rather than this inscrutably weird alien. We haven't really seen many moments of vulnerability or tenderness (besides the fantastic "Everybody Hurts" scene). I understand Dwight, Michael and Jim each bring a different kind of comedy to the table, and Dwight is hilarious, but we've seen a human side to Michael and Jim that just feels missing with him.

Feb 20th 2006

The Jim & Pam love story is very slow moving allowing us to see all of those precious subtle interactions between one another. This is why I find the clever writing and dialogue so much more refreshing than other shows (Desperate Housewives).

Hi Blake! I couldn't agree more -- I love the slow-moving story line and little nuances that make their relationship seem so painfully real. I should know, I'm currently in a Pam-like situation. Minus the Jim. Which makes my situation both lonely and unfulfilling. Where's John Krasinski when you need him? :)

But enough about me! ::Grin:: I love how true-to-life the characters and their situations are. This show couldn't be more amazing if it tried.

Feb 20th 2006

I don't have any gripes about the show. I do, however, think that the damn Olympics have gone on long enough.

Feb 20th 2006

Yeah. What Erin said. :)

Feb 21st 2006

Where's John Krasinski when you need him? :)

Amen to that Scarlet!

I love how we can't even really find anything that realy we hate about this show! That's just how amazing this show is!

Feb 21st 2006

I love how we can't even really find anything that realy we hate about this show!

LOL! Yep, somehow this "gripes" thread has just become another big, steamy, lusty love-fest. Not that there's anything wrong with that ...

PS - Love your screenname! It's so good, I almost have to put you in custardy!

Feb 21st 2006

Thanks!

hahaha, custardy! Pudding...pudding...

Feb 22nd 2006

I must say I'm getting a little tired of how Meredith is portrayed as so completely one-dimensional. Yeah, she's an alcoholic, and yeah, that's funny in a sad way, but I wish they'd flesh out her divorce, her kids, her weekend trips in that sweet Ford Aerostar, and so on in the way that they've done with Phyllis, Stanley, Oscar, Jan, and the other major minor characters.

Mar 25th 2007

I just bumped this thread because I'm impressed with the consistency of LT's opinions. I can't hold an opinion for 13 minutes, let alone 13 months.

Mar 25th 2007

Wow. I'm impressed, too. I don't remember being frustrated with Pam that long ago, but I guess I was. Still, what some people view as "consistency," others view as "stubborn-ass pig-headedness." My husband would vouch for that statement.

Mar 25th 2007

Here's my gripe:

Pam wears too many clothes. If what Pam wore were more revealing, everything else that bothers me about her storyline . . . would vanish.

Mar 25th 2007

But Creed wouldn't leave her alone.

Apr 8th 2007

Okay, at James' suggestion, I've bumped this thread with the idea that those of us who have some less-than-nice things to say about the show sometimes can say them without raining other people's parades all the time. The fact that I have no particular gripe to voice at the moment makes the point no less valid: While there's no way, and probably no reason, to completely rid the rest of the board of negative opinions, it might make some people's experience more enjoyable of some of us (I chiefly among those, I'd imagine) didn't flood both tubes until we opened up this thread. I'll try to keep most of my bitching in here, for the future.

Ta, and happy Passover.

Apr 8th 2007

What, exactly, qualifies as a gripe? For example, if I'm hating on Roy (who is now gone for good, right?) or am annoyed with Pam's passivity, do either of those things count as gripes? I'm guessing if I have a grievance with a character the way he/she is, it's really a character study akin to dissecting a novel and can go in the normal thread, right? And if it crosses over into the realm of "that's not realistic and the writers shouldn't do that" then it should go here, correct?

Apr 8th 2007

I think as far as gripes related to individual characters go, it can go either way. I'd say if it falls into the pure complaint category it should probably go here, but of course, character analysis is relevant to the character threads as well. Use your best judgment is about all I can say.

Apr 8th 2007

As someone who can't even manage to consistently abide by the simple rules of the Question: thread, I'd say we should just maintain the good intentions and the high tolerance that are hallmarks of this forum. Unbridled negativity, and positivity, can get annoying. But I think there's been very little of that and the culprits tend to be infrequent posters.

This is actually a good and underused thread, though, especially for those times you just want to vent about some aspect of the show, kind of like a show-specific tirade thread.

Apr 8th 2007

But I've made my feelings on this matter clear repeatedly, and it's getting be a bit of an old saw that I'm sure is boring everybody by now.

I, for one, appreciate all your posts, DwightfromtheFuture, and all your so-called negative thoughts are just as valuable, if not moreso, than the positive ones. Your posts are as polite and reasonable as they are insightful. And I don't find them repetitive. I think gripes about characters themselves, the writing, the direction, anything, can be deftly woven into the fabric of discussion on any thread, but a gripes-only thread could be fun for some.

Aug 25th 2008

I just bumped this thread because I'm impressed with the consistency of LT's opinions. I can't hold an opinion for 13 minutes, let alone 13 months.

Bri, this was awesome. You have just been Tear'd.

Aug 25th 2008

I, for one, appreciate all your posts, DwightfromtheFuture, and all your so-called negative thoughts are just as valuable, if not moreso, than the positive ones. Your posts are as polite and reasonable as they are insightful.

snicker

Aug 25th 2008

milky way

Aug 25th 2008

100 grand

Aug 25th 2008

Break me off a piece of that Fancy Feast.

Aug 25th 2008

You know what candy bar I like? Nutrageous.

Aug 25th 2008

I like PayDays.

Aug 25th 2008

Chunky

Aug 25th 2008

You know what candy bar I like? Salted Nut Rolls.

Aug 25th 2008

Does anybody else know about Nut Goodies? I've heard that's a midwestern thing. I think the same company also makes Twin Bings.

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