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The show hits the fans : What happens when the documentary airs?
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Apr 6th 2006 edited

Oh, what scenes we’ve seen. As has been mentioned in the Media Coverage thread, the Dunder Mifflin documentary will be airing very soon, according to Exec Producer Greg Daniels. There has been much discussion of what might happen when Pam, Roy and Jim see their relationships on the tube, but what about everyone else. How will other interactions and relationships be affected? Will everyone get to see all we have seen? Will Jan decide to downsize the lot of them?

Apr 6th 2006

Perhaps Michael will realize how he's scarred Ryan for life...but probably not.

I imagine a lot of uncomfortable moments when this occurs

Apr 6th 2006

Oscar will be out of the closet, that's one thing. Also, Jan might get in trouble with the new CFO after all.

Let's just hope Stacy doesn't decide to check Kevin's computer.

Apr 8th 2006 edited

Wow. The consequences of broadcasting the documentary would be endless and hilarious.

I'm pretty sure that even after Michael sees the footage, he still won't get how clueless/jerky/goofy he is. Then again, he's corrected his behavior when he's remembered the cameras were around, so maybe he knows his "Michaelness" and will figure out how to play it off once the docs appear.

I wonder if Jan will be jealous of Michael's realtor?

Apr 13th 2006

kimlvsjim, by “docs” it sounds like you have been thinking this will be a reality-style series. thats what i always assumed, too, and i havent heard otherwise, but now i'm starting to think it will be more of a one hour pbs-style (or maybe that should be animal planet) show. that actually fits the term documentary better, anyway.

and, it would air once and be done. that would make a much tidier scenario for the writers. they wont have to deal with every bad thing anyone has said or done. there would be a bunch of stuff left on the cutting room floor. jan might get to keep her job after all, tad. and michael too.

in a weekly show, things could get really tight-lipped around the office. everyone would be reminded each week that the things they were saying are going nationwide.

does anyone have any info about what type of documentary this is supposed to be?

Apr 19th 2006

Someone mentioned in the Spoiler thread about fans of the fake documentary sending in fan mail to Jim, and a cult following Dwight. It's funny, when the show's documentary "airs," we'll be those fans. We could send fan mail to the characters.

Back on topic, Daniels said that they were going to end the documetary type plot? I would miss the talking heads. A lot.

Apr 19th 2006

Someone mentioned in the Spoiler thread about fans of the fake documentary sending in fan mail to Jim, and a cult following Dwight.

That was me, that was me! Someone has to send panties to Jim. That's all I'm sayin'.

Do reality stars get paparazzi following them?

Apr 19th 2006

Maybe, um, spoilers should stay in the spoilers thread.

Apr 19th 2006

tad,

That's not a spoiler, as far as I know. That was just a suggestion someone made that could happen, and hasn't shown up anywhere that I know as something that will happen in the future.

Apr 20th 2006

Tad, It's not a spoiler, just what I would like to see happen when the docu starts airing, which is the theme of this thread.

Apr 21st 2006

dlo wrote

I would miss the talking heads. A lot.

yeah this is the most worrisome aspect. it seems like it would radically change the show. so much happens in the talking heads. among other things, many scenes end with the interview putting the final punch to the joke.

surely they will find some way to continue to get these confessional type insights from the characters. i cant see them giving up this important of a tool for character development, story advancement, etc.

actually, the same can be said for the mugging at the camera that everyone does (though primarily its jim and michael).

michael's interaction with the camera adds volumes to understanding this wacko. seeing him struggle to couch his statements and shift his positions on the fly, glancing at us the whole time, makes an unbelieveable character more realistic.

jim's looks at the camera give the absurd stuff a grounding in reality as well. its like we are the other sane person in the room and he shoots us a look that says did you just hear what i heard?

how can we do without all that? i mean, kelly even winked at me for gosh sakes! she was looking right at me!... racheal never winked at me. jack bauer never tells me to take cover. ok, lou dobbs does tell me what stocks i should stay away from but thats different.

we've gotta do something. they're trying to throw us out of the office, here! this must be stopped. we need something.. like a... a petition or something.

Apr 21st 2006

I agree that the camera muggings would be missed. I for one enjoy it when Pam looks at me.

Apr 21st 2006

how can we do without all that? i mean, kelly even winked at me for gosh sakes! she was looking right at me!... racheal never winked at me. jack bauer never tells me to take cover. ok, lou dobbs does tell me what stocks i should stay away from but thats different.

Good point, Ferd. Although I think I saw Dr. Cox scowl at me last Tuesday. And I'm sure that Matt Lauer has a smile that's reserved just for me. And I'm positive that some contestant on "American Idol" told me to change the channel the last time I flipped past that semi-musical circus. Other than these examples, watching "The Office" is the only other time I can let the schizophrenic stalker voices inside my head have free reign (and no one else in my house will look at me funny, I mean).

Apr 22nd 2006

Ferd and Michelle - completely agree with you. I feel so at home with The Office right now...sometimes, I answer my phone with, "Dunder-Mifflin, this is dlo." You should try it.

Cat Party! sorry for stealing your thunder there. I want to send Dwight some Battlestar Galactica stuff (awesome, dark show, btw)...and Stanley a crossword puzzle book.

BUT! If the documentary airs or doesn't air in the Office world, Pam will still see The Dundies. They film it every year, right? And she has to pick highlights? So, come season three, another round of The Dundies... Pam MUST see the KISS, the drunken head bobble, and the parking lot scene! Chew on that.

Apr 22nd 2006

now i'm starting to think it will be more of a one hour pbs-style (or maybe that should be animal planet) show.

Ferd, I never thought of this option. Perhaps the documentary will be so successful that another one will be made, thus perpetuating the format that we all know and love.

Feb 24th 2007

This is an interesting question. Also, I'm bumping it so ferd wouldn't have to be embarassed about its place on the last page anymore.

There was a time when I believed that this was how they were going to make Pam aware of the true nature of Jim's feelings, but that's out the window. For a while, I thought that seeing the documentary might help Pam admit her own. That seems unlikely now. Maybe Karen will dump Jim when they show the documentary, and then Jim & Pam can get together, get married, have babies, and all the babies will be aMAzing!!!!!, all as a result of the documentary.

More realistically, I wouldn't be shocked if it aired over this summer, and if this season's cliffhanger, if there is one, might be something having to do with Michael's job, and we might see him in a David Brent-type situation at the beginning of season 4.

Feb 24th 2007

Well, "on the last page" and "closed by mod" are two completely different psychological issues. I will think about my feelings and post later.

Feb 24th 2007

It's just that ferd expressed some embarassment at his lone thread being on the last page.

Feb 24th 2007

I don't want them to show the documentary anytime soon. I have trouble articulating exactly why that is, except to say it would be...weird. I think the ideal situation would be for it to be pre-determined when the last season is, then maybe about three or four episodes before the very end they start showing it. Then we could see a little bit of the character's reactions, but leave it up to us to speculate how much it will affect them in the future.

Feb 24th 2007 edited

I don't want them to show the documentary anytime soon

Me too...maybe I want to see how the characters progress without being influenced by seeing the footage. The show as it is now, with the characters being unaware of a lot of things, has - to quote Dr. Evil - what the French call a certain "I don't know what." And I want to keep it that way.

Feb 24th 2007

yes! rescued from the past by a man from the future! this thread struggled along for a couple weeks then it died. it obviously had a profound effect on thread starting for me.

the documentary, though, to me has been one of the most visible changes in direction that we have seen. what with greg daniels saying in an interview the documentary would air soon. and then (i think) there was another interview or something where someone in the know said they would not be airing it. i think i am remembering that last part right.

anyway it wasnt going to be aired because of some of the negative effects we discussed right her in my thread (though no one ever credited me or anyone else on the forum).

now, maybe i should change this thread title to discuss changes in direction we have seen. things like oscar becoming gay, and jan actually liking michael....

i suppose i would just be asking to be shut down. and here so soon after being saved from the last page.

Feb 24th 2007

So once they see the documentary, would the show revert to sitcom filming or would there be a documentary of how documentary subjects react to seeing themselves on film? It starts to get complicated. I'd rather not see it.

Feb 24th 2007

would there be a documentary of how documentary subjects react to seeing themselves on film?

That's lunacy. I love it.

Feb 24th 2007

and there would then also be fansites for the documentary. there would be discussions, if the show were a series format, as to whether real jim and real pam will get together or whether real roy will find out and make it real interesting.

then there would, in the time of dwightfromthefuture, be a documentary revisiting what the dunder mifflin people were doing after all those years. including how we lost so-and-so last year tragically before their time. famed-out (which will be a well known phrase by that time for pulling a britney [which will be a phrase soon i think]).

but on a positive note everyone would see how mere got sober and ryan too. and there will be a sort of deference to the one of them that who "made it" and turned their shot into a couple sitcom gigs and then a successful tongue in cheek talk show... just schrute me. he will be interviewed on set and then join them via satelite for the wallenpaupack reunion cruise.

Feb 24th 2007

Yes, and then Andy will be back to kill them all...

Feb 24th 2007

Ferd, you could have been the next Loaded Teapot, launcher of 546 distinct discussion threads. Alas, you were cut down in your prime. It's fun to peruse the early days of this thread to see how screen names have changed for some.

My observation is, what if there was no documentary? What if, instead, this was a groundbreaking advance in interactive television wherein you the viewer are a character on the show, spectating inside the small scren rather than passively watching from your couch? The talking head interviews are actually one-on-one conversations with you, a fellow Dunder-Mifflin employee. Mugging for the camera? Hardly. Mugging for Ferd from Sales? Now you're talking. Seems you're quite the voyeur, though, following your office-mates on their free time, to conventions and even back to their home for some TV-watching and hand-holding in one instance. There'd be no doc to air, but the participatory third-person perspective never has to die, either.

Feb 24th 2007 edited

I would like to see how each character views him/herself within the documentary. I'd imagine there would be a lot of comments like, "I didn't know I was talking like that!" and "I can't believe I didn't notice that" and "It's so obvious that he was thinking this." I don't even mean just in terms of Jim and Pam, either. Does Angela know what an uptight bitch she comes across as sometimes? Does Dwight see how wacky he is (and would he even notice in the documentary?). Does Pam realize how her body language paints her as being incredibly meek? Viewing the tape would give each character a different view of him/herself, I think.

edit: I love this thread. It's been robbed. I hope it gets the love it deserves.

Feb 24th 2007

I doubt Michael will think anything of how he appears (other than "I'm as awesome as I thought!")

Feb 24th 2007

Andy Bernard will say, "Those documentary people are so manipulative and unfair. They showed only the stuff that made me look bad."

Angela will react the same way. "Sure, they show me insulting Phyllis, but they didn't show the month after month of Phyllis totally getting on my nerves!" And she'll be horrified that her secret affair has been revealed.

Michael will try to parlay his new fame into a gig as a business speaker.

Stanley will have no reaction whatsoever.

Feb 24th 2007

Stanley will have no reaction whatsoever

So true

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